I read those posts and commented on a few. They were very interesting. I guess my question would be, and forgive me if I asked you this previously, but how do we get the government or other powers on board? Where do we start? What are their incentives? Specifically those that would otherwise be content with corruption and fraud that they may be involved in or benefiting from themselves?
West Virginia Vote Flipping Caught on Tape
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I read those posts and commented on a few. They were very interesting. I guess my question would be, and forgive me if I asked you this previously, but how do we get the government or other powers on board? Where do we start? What are their incentives? Specifically those that would otherwise be content with corruption and fraud that they may be involved in or benefiting from themselves?
On November 8, 2000, the Florida Division of Elections reported that Bush had a margin of victory of 1,784 votes.[1] The margin of victory was less than 0.5% of the votes cast, so a statutorily-mandated[2] automatic machine recount occurred. On November 10, with the machine recount finished in all but one county, Bush's margin of victory had decreased to 327.[3] Florida's election laws[4] allow a candidate to request a county to conduct a manual recount, and Gore requested manual recounts in four Florida counties: Volusia, Palm Beach, Broward and Miami-Dade. The four counties granted the request and began manual recounts.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore
Miami herald says Gore would have won....it seems Gore and his team play the way they always do and that is manilipation of the vote instead of a straight up vote count the way men do it.
Politicians and much of bureaucracy would be greatly reduced, so they might not be too keen on having this. However, with representative direct democracy - they have nothing they can say.
It is just getting people to vote that matters. Get the signatures and form a party. There are already some parties that are representative direct democracy - e.g in Sweden, these are actual political parties. The US organizations listed on the Wikipedia page are 501 organizations and seem like traditional money-grabbers - living off donations and the initiators making their living that way --- a very untrustworthy approach in my opinion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_direct_democracy
You need to start an actual political party, get it registered with signatures and all. Then you start fund-raising, honing infrastructure and systems for voting etc. First you take congress and the senate, then you got most of it... and at that point you probably are so finely tuned that you can turn it into an direct democracy - without the representatives. Then you have specialists performing public services and working in public institutions - instead of politicians with their hierarchies, special interests favours to pay back and corruption like today.
Sure, it is not easy to make such a change - but you need to start somewhere --- and it is all in the hands of the voters, not any institutional power or power politics.