We're Lucky To Have Tillerson

I think he's a man of incredible intelligence and integrity. I'm also glad he's friends with Putin. We need cool heads right now. We are sitting on a powder keg. One minor incident... a nervous soldier... or a pilot flying to close to something... could set the whole thing off.

Lets hope Tillerson's relationship with Putin will embolden Putin to use whatever leverage he might have with China to do what it needs to do to de-fuse this thing. Or else millions are going to die and the world's economies are going to be thrown into the dark ages. There is no doubt in my mind that North Korea has the ability right now with nasty conventional weapons of the chemical and biological kind to launch a deadly attack on Japan's mainland, Singapore, and our West Coast. This will not be limited to the Korean Peninsula.

Trump drew a line in the sand... and that scares me. This is essentially a very high stakes poker game and Kim is is holding pocket aces. Trump has no choice but to back down and eat crow. He has to realize...that even if North Korea could miniaturize a nuke and figure out re-entry, they'll never launch on us. We might just have to accept them being a nuclear power, and spend our $'s on the technology to shoot those fuckers in outer-space if it comes down to that.

Its really possible that the fate of our civilization as we know it rests in the hands of one man, and its not Trump. Its Tillerson. He'll do the right thing, and he'll stand up to Trump even more-so than the generals will. I truly believe that. And he won't quit the job either. He knows whats at stake, and its not Trump's fucking ego. We're lucky to have him.
 
Trump drew a line in the sand... and that scares me. This is essentially a very high stakes poker game and Kim is is holding pocket aces. Trump has no choice but to back down and eat crow. He has to realize...that even if North Korea could miniaturize a nuke and figure out re-entry, they'll never launch on us. We might just have to accept them being a nuclear power, and spend our $'s on the technology to shoot those fuckers in outer-space if it comes down to that.


Agreed. Kim is like an internet troll,best to ignore him imo.NK will not attack The US first .Unfortunately we have a thin skinned President who cant ignore the troll and things might get out of hand.
 
It's not as easy and clear cut as you guys make it out.

If there is a window to disarm someone before they get to the point where they can truly threaten you, you have to assess that. If you're past the point where that window has occurred, then you have no choice - it's simply too late. But I don't know that, and you don't know that. We're all just arm chair quarterbacks.
 
The problem is this: Do you honestly think the NK situation will get better if de-escalated and left alone?
No, I don't. I think he's gonna do what he's gonna do. Our best bet is to out-technology him and in the meantime freeze and starve him, hoping for an overthrow from within.
 
Agreed. Kim is like an internet troll,best to ignore him imo.NK will not attack The US first .Unfortunately we have a thin skinned President who cant ignore the troll and things might get out of hand.
Not really. Kim is more like a radical left thug, or right wing thug if you like, that has your home address and keeps showing up in your driveway making threats. That cannot be ignored and then feign surprise when the shit hits the fan. There are no easy answers here, but just pretending the guy poses no real threat is simply the wrong way to go.
 
Not really. Kim is more like a radical left thug, or right wing thug if you like, that has your home address and keeps showing up in your driveway making threats. That cannot be ignored and then feign surprise when the shit hits the fan. There are no easy answers here, but just pretending the guy poses no real threat is simply the wrong way to go.
What if we quit doing drills with S Korea off his coast and negotiated no more missile tests in exchange? Thats what he's pissed about. As far as we're told.
 
No, I don't. I think he's gonna do what he's gonna do. Our best bet is to out-technology him and in the meantime freeze and starve him, hoping for an overthrow from within.

Right, but the starving and freezing assets hasn't worked thus far and it's been forever since those things were implemented. Regardless of how we got here (and a variety of past administrations own that) we are here. Now what must be assessed is how to diffuse and overthrow without going further down the line. What doesn't help, of course, is a loud mouth in the Oval Office spouting commentary over Twitter.

The Chinese already tried to overthrow Kim with internal assets. If they failed, we certainly aren't going to be able to do it.
 
Why do we have to do drills anyway? Its not like we can't level the place. The outcome will be the same. S Korea will suffer horrendous losses. Whats the point of the drills?
 
Why do we have to do drills anyway? Its not like we can't level the place. The outcome will be the same. S Korea will suffer horrendous losses. Whats the point of the drills?

The idea, though misguided, is that Kim will see the united force and back down. But we've never been able to understand fanatics in this country. We always do the wrong thing.
 
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