Well you have to give Bush some credit...

I am not a Bush fan, nor a republican and def not for the Pat Act.

However, no matter how much you despise the current administration, you have to give them credit that there has been no terrorism in th US since 9/11. No planes, nukes, dirty bombs etc...There hasnt even been a suicide bomber that walked into a sports arena or shopping mall and blew himself up.

For all the videos and threats there have been over the last 5 years, I give the gov a helluva lot of credit protecting our borders.
Cant there possibly be an argument against this?
 
Quote from gunslinger:

I am not a Bush fan, nor a republican and def not for the Pat Act.

However, no matter how much you despise the current administration, you have to give them credit that there has been no terrorism in th US since 9/11. No planes, nukes, dirty bombs etc...There hasnt even been a suicide bomber that walked into a sports arena or shopping mall and blew himself up.

For all the videos and threats there have been over the last 5 years, I give the gov a helluva lot of credit protecting our borders.
Cant there possibly be an argument against this?



That's because the Bush government did 9/11. Now all they'll need to do is milk that for the next 10 generations to keep on getting elected. Did I hear "Jebby" is running for president next? :D


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And no one buys your fake bullshit on how you're "not a Bush fan". You probably bend over for him every night!! Hahahahhaha!!! :D
 
Yes, give him credit - more Americans died in Iraq than on 9/11.

Do you get credit for not screwing up again after one major screwup? Read Bob Woodward's "State of Denial."
The book also reports that then-CIA Director George J. Tenet and his counterterrorism chief, J. Cofer Black, grew so concerned in the summer of 2001 about a possible al-Qaeda attack that they drove straight to the White House to get high-level attention.

Tenet called Rice, then the national security adviser, from his car to ask to see her, in hopes that the surprise appearance would make an impression. But the meeting on July 10, 2001, left Tenet and Black frustrated and feeling brushed off, Woodward reported. Rice, they thought, did not seem to feel the same sense of urgency about the threat and was content to wait for an ongoing policy review.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/29/AR2006092901593.html
 
Quote from gunslinger:



For all the videos and threats there have been over the last 5 years, I give the gov a helluva lot of credit protecting our borders.


Wow. You are totally out of touch.

2,000 illegals enter the country a day.

No guards.

No fence.

No barrier.


You must have scored real high on that iq test, eh?
 
Quote from achilles28:

Wow. You are totally out of touch.

2,000 illegals enter the country a day.

No guards.

No fence.

No barrier.


You must have scored real high on that iq test, eh?

I use the term "protecting our borders" in reference to terrorists. When 911 happened most of the people I spoke with were scared even to goto NYC. You saw coumtless people buying gasmasks etc...yet much to the dismay of the fanatics (I use this term in reference to the Muslims and ETers) nothing has happened. Got to give props for that.

Oh and by the way, how do you know that 2000 illegeals enter the US each day. I mean if they are doing it illegaly that how are they counted?
 
Quote from achilles28:

Wow. You are totally out of touch.

2,000 illegals enter the country a day.

No guards.

No fence.

No barrier.


You must have scored real high on that iq test, eh?

What does illegal immigration have to do with Bush?

Has Congress allocated increased funding for a fence?

Ever hear of the Posse Comitatus Act?

Perhaps it's YOU with the diminished I.Q.


"The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed in 1878 after the end of Reconstruction. The Act was intended to prohibit Federal troops from supervising elections in former Confederate states. It generally prohibits Federal military personnel and units of the United States National Guard under Federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the Federal government to use the military for law enforcement."

In other words: unless a Governor asks for U.S. troops to enter his state for border patrol, it's ILLEGAL. ONLY Governors may deploy their OWN national Guard for this duty (as is presently occurring). Now if you want to stretch the law and claim migrant workers are "foreign invaders" then be my guest.....
 
Quote from gunslinger:

I use the term "protecting our borders" in reference to terrorists. When 911 happened most of the people I spoke with were scared even to goto NYC. You saw coumtless people buying gasmasks etc...yet much to the dismay of the fanatics (I use this term in reference to the Muslims and ETers) nothing has happened. Got to give props for that.

Oh and by the way, how do you know that 2000 illegeals enter the US each day. I mean if they are doing it illegaly that how are they counted?

Looks like we're talking to a real retard here.

From wikipedia
One method of estimating this population is called the “residual methodology” where the reported census number of self proclaimed foreign born people in the U.S. census is subtracted from the known number of legal immigrants to obtain the illegal alien (residual) population[5]. This methodology is used by the US Department of Homeland Security, Pew Hispanic Center, the Census Bureau and others. Since illegal aliens have many reasons for not answering the census correctly and no penalties for answering the census incorrectly a direct subtraction has a well known source of under count error and has to be corrected. All known users of this methodology correct the foreign born population (~ 35-50 million) by 10-40% (3-12 million) to account for this under count effect. Critics claim this correction is in error--whatever size correction is used.
Using the residual methodology with a minimal 10% foreign born undercount correction (reason for correction size unstated) for the 2000 Census and a 700,000 net illegal alien increase/year assumption and data from the March 2004 Current Population Survey [CPS Survey] (U.S. Census Bureau and Department of Labor) Pew came up with 10.3 million illegal aliens in 2004. Assuming the same rate of growth Pew estimates this population reached at least 11 million as of March 2005 [6].
The Pew Hispanic Center (Estimating the Size and Characteristics of the Undocumented Population; Figure 3) estimates that in the 1980’s net illegal immigration was at the 130,000 per year increasing to 450,000 /year from 1990-94, and further increasing to 750,000 /year from 1995-1999 and staying at 700-850,000+ /year since about 2000. Illegal Mexican immigration amounts to about 500,000 /year of this influx since about 1999. According to the same Pew Hispanic Center study as of March 2005, the illegal alien population had reached 11 million or more including more than 6.5 million illegal Mexicans (~60% of all illegals). Assuming the same rate of growth as in recent years gives about 12,000,000 illegal aliens in the United States as of January 2006, increasing at 700-850,000 per year with illegal Mexicans amounting to about 60%+ (~7+ million) of the total by 2006 and an ever increasing percentage as time progresses. By September 2006 the illegal population is thought to be about 13 million. About one-sixth of the illegal alien population--about 2.0 million people--is under 18 years of age.
 
Quote from Pabst:

What does illegal immigration have to do with Bush?

Has Congress allocated increased funding for a fence?

Ever hear of the Posse Comitatus Act?

Perhaps it's YOU with the diminished I.Q.


"The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed in 1878 after the end of Reconstruction. The Act was intended to prohibit Federal troops from supervising elections in former Confederate states. It generally prohibits Federal military personnel and units of the United States National Guard under Federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the Federal government to use the military for law enforcement."

In other words: unless a Governor asks for U.S. troops to enter his state for border patrol, it's ILLEGAL. ONLY Governors may deploy their OWN national Guard for this duty (as is presently occurring). Now if you want to stretch the law and claim migrant workers are "foreign invaders" then be my guest.....
Wait, this thread was trying to claim credit for Bush for "protecting the border."

Never mind, you've been known to have trouble with logic...
 
Quote from james_bond_3rd:

Wait, this thread was trying to claim credit for Bush for "protecting the border."

Never mind, you've been known to have trouble with logic...

There's ZERO connection between "protected" borders and domestic terrorism. al-queda operatives swig Jack Daniels and live in swanky resort areas. What they DON'T do is swim across the Rio Grande.
 
Quote from james_bond_3rd:

Looks like we're talking to a real retard here.

From wikipedia

Wow u still call people retards, so i guess ur what 16?

Anyway ur wik article is far from conclusive that 2000 illegal enter the US. That aside, that has absolutly nothing to do with the thread topic, but wahteva ur James Bond
 
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