Weekly SPX options and MiniSPX

Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

Gamma is the opposite of theta. Lot's of bang for your buck. If you're right and it moves in your direction the rise will more than make up for your theta decay


AH, makes more sense now. Thx Dr....good to see you post.


Semper Fidelis.
 
Quote from traderjb:

Isn't these new mini-SPX thingies essentially the same thing to SPY, as DJX options were to DIA??


As for the weeklies, imagine the spread plays on that! LOL

Actually, mini-SPX options will be the same to SPX options, as MNX options are to NDX options.

But you're right, mini-SPX wil be to SPY, like DJX are to DIA, or is it the other way around....:confused:

Is that confusing or what!? :D
 
Quote from SWScapital:

Huh, why in the world would you play them from the long side then? What I mean is Theta will be rapid if the option is OTM. Even if your playing deep ITM it sounds like a suckers game with 5 days in existence. I am sure many of you are more option savvy than me...thoughts?

Well that's what's worrying me..
In case of the monthly expiration,there were buyers and sellers for almost all types of options (ATM and OTM)
I'm afraid that one will hardly find buyers for OTM options in case of such rapid time decay.
Does anyone have an idea of the time intervalls the XSP options will be available for? (only for the next week,month,2 months)

Thx
 
Quote from mance:

Well that's what's worrying me..
In case of the monthly expiration,there were buyers and sellers for almost all types of options (ATM and OTM)
I'm afraid that one will hardly find buyers for OTM options in case of such rapid time decay.
Does anyone have an idea of the time intervalls the XSP options will be available for? (only for the next week,month,2 months)

Thx

Are you asking about mini-SPX (XSP) or weeklys? You post seem to be mixing the two together.

If you're asking about weeklys then the answer is quite obvious - options will be only for the next week, otherwise it defies the purpose of the weeklys.
 
Quote from MTE:

Are you asking about mini-SPX (XSP) or weeklys? You post seem to be mixing the two together.

If you're asking about weeklys then the answer is quite obvious - options will be only for the next week, otherwise it defies the purpose of the weeklys.

Sorry MTE I just read the entire article..
The weeklys are going to be listed on a Friday and expiring the following Friday.
I was thinking that they will be listed a bit earlier (let's say) 2-3 Weeks before expiration,just to use the greater time value..
 
Quote from MTE:

True, with index options you don't have the exact underlying, but this problem has nothing to do with options being European-style.

Unless you go long or short the synthetic.
 
Quote from riskarb:

http://www.cboe.com/AboutCBOE/ShowDocument.aspx?DIR=ACNews&FILE=20050909b.doc

http://www.cboe.com/AboutCBOE/ShowDocument.aspx?DIR=ACNews&FILE=20050909a.doc

The weekly SPX expirations have a chance of being a successful contract. Will allow the retail to trade pure-gamma.

I'm looking forward to these. As a dedicated seller of theta I hate expiration week because the gamma gets to be too much for my risk adverse nature to stomach and I wind up rolling out before I can harvest the richest theta.

Weeklys should allow me to fine tune the blend (i.e., with monthlys) and keep the theta more or less constant week in and week out.

Thank you CBOE.
 
CBOE TO LAUNCH MINI-SPX INDEX OPTIONS ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2005

CHICAGO - October 20, 2005 -- The Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE)
will launch Mini-SPX options, based on the Standard & Poor's 500 Stock
Index, on Tuesday, October 25, 2005, as previously announced. Mini-SPX
options (ticker symbol XSP) will be 1/10th the value of the S&P 500
Index, and will trade on CBOE's Hybrid 2.0 Trading System, which
includes Remote Market Makers. Trading XSP options on CBOE's Hybrid
Trading System will offer investors a smaller-sized S&P 500 contract
with the combined advantages of electronic trading and the open-outcry
market on a single platform.

"CBOE's Index options have been the fastest growing segment of our
business due to the increased interest in option products that provide
the benefit of trading the broad market. The unparalleled liquidity
found in CBOE's Index complex and the ease of access through the Hybrid
Trading System is a powerful combination that delivers real value to
our customers," said CBOE Chairman and CEO William J. Brodsky.

"CBOE now offers a full suite of S&P Index products, each with unique
characteristics that appeal to different customers' needs, and
combined, will create new trading opportunities. Our new Mini-SPX
options provide all the advantages of trading the broad-market S&P 500,
yet come in a manageably sized contract, with the certainty of
European-style exercise, efficiency of cash-settlement and the benefits
of our Hybrid Trading System, all of which will appeal to a wide range
of customers," said CBOE Vice Chairman Edward T. Tilly. "Through
innovation by our members and new product development team, CBOE is
again adding real value, and real options, for investors."

"Historically, options have been a great way to trade the overall
direction of the market - as defined by the S&P 500," says Robert
Shakotko, Managing Director of Index Services at Standard & Poor's.
"With over $3.5 trillion benchmarked to the S&P 500, the new Mini-SPX
options will provide investors with access to the world's most followed
index in a liquid and affordably-sized contract."
 
I fail to see how these products are going to be effective. Very few traders I know can trade short duration gamma at all effectively where they are long or short it. It's the worst of both worlds. I'm sure there will be plenty of arb opportunities for the Citadel's of the world. Just don't see the avg ET guy doing anything with these.
 
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