Weed Bust

Quote from IDtenT_Error:

doh! and I thought I was the only lunatic with this idea. Really, with modern technology and the profit incentive it seems like this should already be happening. Opium/heroin also.
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No, not opium/heroin. It takes 175-250 man hours of labor to produce just one kilo of raw opium. Therefore it must be grown where labor is very cheap.

The most labor intensive part is the harvest. Each poppy pod must be gently slit to allow the latex to bleed out for half a day. Then the opium is scraped by hand from every single pod. Only a miniscule amount or raw opium (10-80 mg) is collected from a single flower.

I have designed (only on paper) revolutionary opium poppy harvesting tools which would drastically streamline and slash the amount of labor required for this process. With my inventions, one worker could do the work of ten. If anyone here is actually interested, I can explain exactly how these tools could be engineered and how they would work.
 
Quote from IDtenT_Error:

It's neat how there are not many social conservatives on ET... just leftest [sic] loonies and libertarians.
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Yeah, you're right. The War on Drugs is one of the most successful efforts ever carried out by the United States government. The effects are obvious, and anyone who questions that is, as you say, a loony. Thank God for the DEA. Imagine what would have happened in Afghanistan if their efforts (along with the CIA) were stifled by leftist moonbats. And what about South America? Not to mention here at home. The only way we'll ever stop people from using drugs is by wiping out every last operation that manufactures, transports, or sells any form of drug anywhere on the planet, from the big cartels down to the individual dealers. This should be feasible for the DEA, it will just take some time. Look at all they've accomplished since the War on Drugs was officially declared, during Reagan's Zero Tolerance era. Users should be locked up on the first offence; three strikes and you're out for good. That would give people second thoughts. I read on here that 25% of the xxx million people in jail in the US are in there for drug offenses; it's not enough by half.

People are sheep and prohibition is the only way to keep law-abiding citizens safe from the wackos and drug addicts. Give a man his liberty and he's likely to step in a pile of dogshit. I scoff at the so-called libertarians.
 
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It's neat how there are not many social conservatives on ET... just leftest loonies and libertarians.
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The definition of a libertarian is a conservative that still gets high :)

My buds and I used to get a kilo of mexican grass in the 60's for $135-$165. The price changed all the time, I think the guy selling was smoking more than his customers. I never knew his name, if we were in a Kerry's restaurant, his name was Kerry, the darn guy's name changed as much as the prices. It was sort of like ET, everybody had an alias and no particular known history. We would get 40 "ounce" bags out of a kilo and drive to Haight Ashbury from Los Angeles and sell it for $15/bag or about 5x what we paid. My one pal could talk the price up, we started at the going rate of $10/bag but he convinced those hippies that our weed with the black seeds was the best stuff on the planet and they would pay more for it. In todays money our operation was netting maybe $6,000 a weekend. Youth is grand, if we had added up the money and had a clue about how much our earnings were compared to almost anything else going at the time, we would have gone into the business in a bigger way but after a few trips to San Francisco we got tired of it and dropped the business end of things. It seemed like the cops did not much care about marijuana in those days. I knew a couple actually, the one guy was more busy rousting whore houses and getting paid off in freebies than busting any dope dealers. There might have been zealots around but I never crossed paths with them, it was probably only a matter of time.

Anyhow, I am 40 years out of the loop but it is soooo good thinking back to the good old days. Where is that Bob Dylan album....

Sorry if my reminiscing is boring....
 
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No, not opium/heroin. It takes 175-250 man hours of labor to produce just one kilo of raw opium. Therefore it must be grown where labor is very cheap.

The most labor intensive part is the harvest. Each poppy pod must be gently slit to allow the latex to bleed out for half a day. Then the opium is scraped by hand from every single pod. Only a miniscule amount or raw opium (10-80 mg) is collected from a single flower.

I have designed (only on paper) revolutionary opium poppy harvesting tools which would drastically streamline and slash the amount of labor required for this process. With my inventions, one worker could do the work of ten. If anyone here is actually interested, I can explain exactly how these tools could be engineered and how they would work.
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Jeez, America is outsourcing this work, by all means let's bring this huge part of our heritage and economy back into our own borders :) Actually, there is no way you want to get sideways with the folks that are already ... shall I say ...dominant ... in that business. They have people that can shoot a dime at 100 feet [or you] and never do any time for it no matter how many times they get convicted. I would not even file the patents.. my advice is to work on something more realistic like world peace or something.
 
the profits from the world cocaine industry alone are greater than the combined profits of kodak, microsoft and mcdonalds according to one book.

surely that alone is reason to legalize it? think of the tax.

i dont think it will create that many more addicts, and will probably help a load of the neo-nazis on this site to chill out a bit.

i think most people are sensible enough to have a good time on it, feel a bit crappy the next day and lay off it for a while.

alcohol is addictive and most people get a bit tiddly to unwind no problem. its only a small minority who get addicted to drink. does society let this fact spoil it for the rest of us?

if you have the addictive personality type, legislation wont help you. you will get addicted to something or other.

basic economics, current drug laws and past prohibition experiences prove that the more you demonize something or reduce its supply, the more popular and desirable it becomes.

talk to a teenager who has grown up in amsterdam. the chances are he has smoked a few joints found it no big deal and never touched them again. now talk to an english, german, french, spanish teenager the same question and he thinks hes really cool with a joint and will do it whenever he can - often leading to mental health problems if he smokes a lot of skunk.
 
(CHORUS) LEGALIZE IT
DON'T CRITICIZE IT
LEGALIZE IT YEA-AH YEA-AH
AND I WILL ADVERTIZE IT

SOME CALL IT TAMJEE
SOME CALL IT THE WEED
SOME CALL IT MARIJUANA
SOME OF THEM CALL IT GANJA
NEVER MIND, GOT TO...

SINGERS SMOKE IT
AND PLAYERS OF INSTRUMENT, TOO
LEGALIZE IT, YEA-AH YEA-AH
THAT'S THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO

DOCTORS SMOKE IT
NURSES SMOKE IT
JUDGES SMOKE IT
EVEN LAWYER, TOO
SO YOU'VE GOT TO...

IT'S GOOD FOR THE FLU
GOOD FOR ASTHMA
GOOD FOR TUBERCULOSIS
EVEN NUMARA THROMBOSIS

BIRDS EAT IT
ANTS LOVE IT
FOWLS EAT IT
GOATS LOVE TO PLAY WITH IT


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Quote from maxpi:

Jeez, America is outsourcing this work, by all means let's bring this huge part of our heritage and economy back into our own borders :) Actually, there is no way you want to get sideways with the folks that are already ... shall I say ...dominant ... in that business. They have people that can shoot a dime at 100 feet [or you] and never do any time for it no matter how many times they get convicted. I would not even file the patents.. my advice is to work on something more realistic like world peace or something.
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Assumption#1: Publicizing my labor-saving poppy harvesting tool designs would be harmful to the interests of overseas drug bosses.

<b>False.</b> They too, would take advantage of the new tools.

Assumption#2: I'd just hate to get assassinated. Living to a ripe old age, just so I can spend the final decade of my life as a vegetable, stewing in my own diapers like Ronald Reagan and Ariel Sharon... that would be awesome!

<b>False.</b>

Assumption#3: I'd be dumb enough to actually try filing a patent for tools which would increase narcotic production.

<b>False.</b> That would be almost as dumb as trying to file a patent for improved techniques in the growing field of 'pimping out ho's.' Intellectual property rights are completely irrelevant to this issue, as no government would ever allow me to enforce them.

Assumption#4: I've put alot of work into designing these tools, and I may expect great financial rewards from their sale.

<b>False.</b> The ideas came to me naturally when...uhhhh... how shall we say... maybe, theoretically <i>imagining</i> myself harvesting a field of poppies. (I'd never do such a thing in real life, as the government is always right. ). Also, there's no way to make any money out of these tool designs (without directly hiring my own workers to use them) , and I'd be foolish to think otherwise. That's why no engineer in the world (that I know of) has bothered to build them. Out of six billion people on this planet, I'm positive many others have thought up nearly identical tool design ideas. This isn't rocket science, but just common sense engineering.
 
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talk to a teenager who has grown up in amsterdam. the chances are he has smoked a few joints found it no big deal and never touched them again. now talk to an english, german, french, spanish teenager the same question and he thinks hes really cool with a joint and will do it whenever he can - often leading to mental health problems if he smokes a lot of skunk.
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Exactly... freedom works when done well.
 
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