We Will Not Go Quietly Into The Night!

I was recently in the hospital for a very high fever that came out of nowhere.

There were a few people in their 80s or so and they were not really alive.....the DRs just hover around them and give them painkillers and whatever at a cost of as much as $35,000 a day for the worst cases. It disgusted me.....it is profiteering by DRs, at best.

Prreventative care should be started in ones early 30s.

All financial incentives are for DRs to keep people sick, not cure anyone of anything.
 
Quote from vhehn:

are you daft? who do you think runs and pays for medicare. 20 or 30? i was that age 30 years ago.
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I didn't know one could be so ignorant at such an age. The government doesn't pay for Medicare. They are tens of trillions of dollars in the red.
Go read Pabst's post above.
 
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I didn't know one could be so ignorant at such an age. The government doesn't pay for Medicare. They are tens of trillions of dollars in the red.
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i will let the ignorance of what you just said stand on its own as evidence of how bright you are.
 
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I was recently in the hospital for a very high fever that came out of nowhere.

There were a few people in their 80s or so and they were not really alive.....the DRs just hover around them and give them painkillers and whatever at a cost of as much as $35,000 a day for the worst cases. It disgusted me.....it is profiteering by DRs, at best.

Prreventative care should be started in ones early 30s.

All financial incentives are for DRs to keep people sick, not cure anyone of anything.
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this subject is fresh in my mind. my mother in law recently passed away after 10 years bedridden in a nursing home suffering terrible pain. quality of life has to be considered.
 
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The same amoral commie cunts who favor abortion and social engineering will now fall over themselves as proponents of de facto state sponsored euthanasia. For the greater good of course.

I could just as easily make the same argument. Why waste money on prenatal care for babies born to the indignant when they'll only die several years later in a drive-by or from a drug overdose?

How noble to stiff the elderly-some of whom paid literally millions in Federal taxes so that Ghetto Nation can receive comped, pro-bono care paid for by the very taxes of those older folks who toil in serfdom for Big Brother.
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How do you spend what's not there? Moral outrage is easy - coming up with the money is the tough part.
 
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Well, $1,000,000 can buy an awful lot of preventative care for hundreds (maybe close to a thousand) of infants and toddlers, that will go a great length to increasing the odds they live a healthy, full life, and about 3 to 6 months for a very sick, maybe terminally ill,, intensely treated, 80+ year old in hospital, who will have a shitty quality of life even if they eke out another few months.

You think I'm jaded or cynical to point out this REAL LIFE choice we all have to make?

You who choose to ignore it will only run government and individual debt higher and higher.

It's life, reality, the cold, hard facts.

In health care, an ounce of prevention at a young age is worth a million pounds of attempted cure at an old, frail one.

And I will walk the walk. If I'm on my death bed when I'm old, with cancer or some shit, and the insurance company is spending 8 thousand per day to keep me alive, whether it's coming from the tax payers or my private insurance, and I'm old and sick, keep me comfortable and let me fade peacefully, and preserve health care resources for where they can do the most good.

Until this country and its citizens acknowledge this as the rational AND moral path, we are FUBAR.
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I respectfully completely disagree with you ByLo that this is the choice that we have to make. When at least 40% of the money spent on healthcare in this country goes to people who have nothing to do with the act of providing care and in many cases hinder that process I think that there is room for improvement in the system before we have to rob the elderly of the advances in care of the last several decades.

How about we at least cut the lawyers and the insurance companies out of the healthcare pie before we start rationing services to seniors (who by the way right now are the people in the greatest generation who, from my perspective at least, deserve everything that they can get in terms of modern healthcare). There are few things that I would be happy to have my taxes raised for but this would be one of them if it came to that but at least lets get the bloodsucking leaches and their inherent costs out of the health care system first.
 
Surely it would be un-American to expect bankers to survive on only a 7 figure wage, paid for by the tax payers, for a lousy job ?

The elderly, sick and Joe Sixpack can take a flying jump for all some people care.

Perhaps legalise drugs for the sick over 70s - that should finish them off on a big high woooooooooo hooooooooo
 
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In health care, an ounce of prevention at a young age is worth a million pounds of attempted cure at an old, frail one.
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Should this prevention be mandated by the gov? You know, what you eat, how much you eat, how much you exercise, do you smoke, drink, etc? As far as I'm concerned, a 60 year old who spends 20 hours a week in the gym should have priority over a fat 30 something who sits in front of his PC 12 hours a day snacking. And war veterans should never, ever be told to take a pain pill and go off and die.

Maybe some in this forum can go tell those old ww2, Korean, Vietnam, and Iraqi vets they need to make one more sacrifice for their country if they happen to fall ill in their later years.
 
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