we often talk bucketshops like FXCM, How about a real good FX broker for a change

[skot99]

That's because you don't know how to read the little three and four letter words, buy, sell. Probably not going to happen for you... they should have a skill testing question requirement for these pathetic little counts, anyways, now I see why a lot of the good traders who used to come to this site have left.

Dipwad, Surely you must have something better to do eh, like your hooked on phonetics lessons perhaps.. get lost

Quote from Exception:

I haven't tried trading with them

 

[skot99]

No your not, you are in fact just a rude and rather low level dipshit with no future in front of you except for the career flippin burgers.. that is your most likely next destination

Quote from Exception:

I am not collegeTra3der, don't you know

I am Cold/Jasonn

and please Cable, don't make me dig out your Oanda bitching post and RE-POST it

I am the person who sent you PM suggesting you take a look at ACM, but all you do is screw around, you are not a serious chap, you are too goofy for this biz

 

[skot99]

This is getting tiresome, i'm almost done with this, entertaining as I am finding it. No Cableman, I think he is probably just past pre-pubescence, otherwise I let has have great pitty on this complete and total loser,., haha, holy crap, what doorknob.

Quote from cabletrader:

A wee bit extreme but don't let me stop you!

Just not too bright are you. What I said was "I'd sooner trade with FXCM than ACM, and that's saying something!", lol, it wasn't a comparison.

It's a bit like saying I'd sooner stick pins in my eyes than try and hold a sensible conversation with you

You're quite a strange kind of adult.....assuming you are actually an adult of course!

Come on man we want entertaining on Sunday afternoon, you're usually better than this.....

 

[skot99]

Livermore traded the buckets because he didn't have access to the exchange... IT didn't mean much in the 1920s. In this day and age the electronic exchanges have created a level playing field that anybody can access, they have provided the framework for incredible advances in technology... You take a guy like Exception however, who is trading on his still trying to work out how his speak&spell and it doesn't matter who is broking him. If you plan to compete with the market makers you need to be armed with same weaponry otherwise you are just bringing a knife to a gun fight. Scalping comes down to technology and speed, and there is simply no better way than to cut out middle men and their crappy online programs, get a real trading app, and get dma. end of story. If you haven't tried scalping with X Trader you haven't scalped. It is a blast.

Quote from T-Bone Trader:

If you're truly a good trader, you can beat the bucketshops - more money to be made

Livermore lost all his money in the regulated exchange BUT made all his money in the bucketshops

The exchange is a crock! Bucketshops are the way to make real money!

 

[skot99]

OMG, you are such a loser

Quote from Exception:

livermore lived long time ago, talk is easy
beating bucketshops is next to impossible, these guys today are not stupid, they control the dealing desk and price feed
you don't control nothing

 

[skot99]

Of course their prices won't be all the same, why would they be, this is the point of trading with each other, to bring them together. The banks and the exchange (CME) makes the smaller dealers prices, and they make you and each other prices. The only way to get the best prices is to go to the top of the food chain, which is to bypass all these crappy little brokers in the first place and go the CME, which is probably the easiest way to get your prices from the biggest dealers, the guys with the tightest prices that nobody but nobody is getting inside of.,. unless you are a wee little scalper with a few contracts, it is hilarious you can pike'em all day long with X trader...

Quote from T-Bone Trader:

An experienced trader knows how to trade strong trends, knows not to use too much leverage and knows when to take his profits

You are clearly not one of us...

If you subscribe to eSignal Forex, you can choose which broker you want to get charts from - i.e., gft, fxcm, pfg, gain, etc

You can compare the charts and last execution price from each one randomly and see if you're getting fucked by your broker

I do this a lot to see if there is too much hanky-panky going on -- sometimes, yes

But you're an absolute idiot if you think fx, options, index futures, gold, silver, wheat, stocks, etfs, etc.... are a fair game

Just quit! This is clearly not your calling

 

[skot99]

If you are 15 years old I am sorry for the earlier comments and I do hope you grow up to develop an ability to think critically..

Quote from Exception:

my only wish that you fools would remember me when bucketshop blows you to hell
unfortunately you won't remember me because you guys are seriously demented

I mean it, you guys need help, medical help

 

[skot99]

The problem with comparing all these feeds run through different servers and the through esignal and then over your network connection is latency... there is but no way what you are seeing is accurate... although, true enough it would be a cold day in hell if every little bucket dealer was showing the same bids/offers...

eSignal has some nice charts and robust access, but you do have serious latency issues...

Quote from athlonmank8:

Wow best thing i've read all day

 

[skot99]

they probably gave you $25 because you put an order through and the system froze up.. so they were nice and gave you a credit... that's their main problem,. a zillion clients trading 'online'. When they are all trying to execute it's impossible... you need to get dialed in if you want to really trade..

Quote from Sandybestdog:

Are you saying to ignore me or Exception? I’m assuming you’re talking about him. I don’t care if someone critisizes, just back up your statements. You can’t make false statements and then not stand by them, that’s slander. I have been a mostly losing trader for about 7 years, but with a few exceptions, it was never the brokers fault, I made bad trades. FXCM gave me $25 in February and I have turned that into $1900. It’s the most incredible trading I’ve done. I have confidence now.

They do not scam you like what is being touted here. When I click a price, I get it, sometimes better. Never even 1 pip in slippage ever. All of my stops are guaranteed (and if you can’t think of a most obvious way to take advantage of that, then just think about it for a minute). Of course they widen the spreads during volatile time and on Sundays at the open, but that is to be expected. During the overnight hours NQ and YM often go to 3 or 4 tick, does that make them a scam?

If a company that I am happy to do business with is wrongly villified, I have to stand up for them. I can’t let their business be hurt because it will eventually hurt me. Believe me, the day they screw me, I’ll be the first to close my account and start bashing them.

 

[skot99]

They are like an ECN, not a true ECN. They have replicated something close to a true ECN using some proprietary technology. They are just a conduit. CME fx futures is by far the best way to trade fx

Quote from IMF:

ok I have to admit they look and sound exactly like a true ECN should

charging commission, instead of screwing with the spread

-- allowing scalping etc

but how can I verify
this is what their person told me


"Since there is no central marketplace for forex, there is no website/regulatory group similar to that of securities for you to verify. The only thing I can suggest is to perhaps try out our demo so you can experience the ECN technology yourself to see the differences between deal desk methodologies and our model."