We Need School Security - Not Gun Control

Quote from pspr:

Right. His propsal is over the top. Someone here needs to read the Constitution and learn and understand America.

We already have well regulated militias in our towns, they're called the police. They can hold onto all of our AR-15's in case the tyranny of the federal government becomes a serious problem.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

So you want to go straight to confiscation?

You'll have a full scale insurrection on your hands....

With all due respect, brother AAA.
There will be no full scale insurrection.

Americans will stand by and do nothing when a government steals as almost as much of their income as they please and now plan to confiscate more.
Americans will stand by as one of the most egregious laws in the history of the United States is implemented and confirmed by the so called supreme court: Obamacare.

And you think the citizens/slaves are going to mount an insurrection because they may not get to keep their SCARs?

The way this will be handled by the government will not be in one massive sweep.
It will be done very slowly.
Confiscations and fines will go like this:
2 confiscations in Wisconsin.
A month later: 1 confiscation in California.
Two months later: 1 confiscation in Florida.
A month later: 2 confiscation in Oregon.

The way laws are enforced is by example.
When you set up the dominoes and thump the first one, the rest fall practically all by themselves.
In other words, the government will proceed with such subtle caution that the sleepy citizens of this country won't even think about such actions as a full scale insurrection.
I mean, of course, some will, but the overwhelming majority don't have the guts.

Personally, I'm way more upset about our tax scam and Obamacare than giving up my AR-15.

On the other hand, if Obama tried to take away all guns (which he won't), then that would be a totally different situation.
 
Quote from kmgilroy89:

We already have well regulated militias in our towns, they're called the police. They can hold onto all of our AR-15's in case the tyranny of the federal government becomes a serious problem.

Uh...You kinda lost me on this one, brother Gilroy.
 
Quote from kmgilroy89:

We already have well regulated militias in our towns, they're called the police. They can hold onto all of our AR-15's in case the tyranny of the federal government becomes a serious problem.
Go read some Supreme Court decisions. The 2nd Amendment has been determined to be broader than state organized militias and has in fact been determined to be a right of the people. But then, you don't concern yourself with court decisions, do you? Just press on with your own personal belief, right or wrong. You're a good little liberal soldier.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

This "ban guns" BS is a mini version of 9/11.

A few thousand people (out of 300 million) get killed by some wackos... and we end up with the Patriot Act and Homeland Security... and the cherry on top, ODUMBO... America's version of Hitler.

Now we want to ban guns because 26 innocents were killed by another wacko.

Life has hazards. And we can't protect ourselves from all of them by bending over, grabbing our ankles and handing the government our bar of soap.

:mad: :mad:

We also can't bend over and grab our ankles because a few gun nuts don't understand that it ain't 1776.
 
Quote from pspr:

Go read some Supreme Court decisions. The 2nd Amendment has been determined to be broader than state organized militias and has in fact been determined to be a right of the people. But then, you don't concern yourself with court decisions, do you? Just press on with your own personal belief, right or wrong.

I suppose you agree with the recent actions of brother John Roberts?
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

So you want to go straight to confiscation?

You'll have a full scale insurrection on your hands. Of course, liberals would like that so they could really clamp down hard.

This is why there is no point to debating this issue. No matter what they claim, what liberals really want is gun confiscation. This guy is just more honest than most. Any compromise is just a step toward that.

This whacked out kid could have done at least as much damage with a shotgun, maybe more since some of the teachers apparently thought it was a good idea for the kids to huddle together in the corner. I'm not blaming the teachers. They hadn't been trained, but hey wuld have been better off to tell the kids to run like Jason was after them.

So are you going to ban shotguns too?

How fast can shotguns fire bullets? There needs to be a limit on guns based on how much damage they could do. Truthfully, I would like our laws to be like Japan, but I don't know if that's realistic. I'm aware that Japan is a group of islands not bordered by countries like Mexico and has a very different culture. While an isolated island, Australia's culture is more like ours and they banned semi-automatic weapons. There haven't been any massacres since.
 
Quote from kmgilroy89:

How fast can shotguns fire bullets? There needs to be a limit on guns based on how much damage they could do. Truthfully, I would like our laws to be like Japan, but I don't know if that's realistic. I'm aware that Japan is a group of islands not bordered by countries like Mexico and has a very different culture. While an isolated island, Australia's culture is more like ours and they banned semi-automatic weapons. There haven't been any massacres since.

Shotguns can do massive damage.
I would, however, allow shotguns.
They are generally not considered an assault weapon.
Citizens must be allowed such a weapon for personal protection.
 
Quote from pspr:

Go read some Supreme Court decisions. The 2nd Amendment has been determined to be broader than state organized militias and has in fact been determined to be a right of the people. But then, you don't concern yourself with court decisions, do you? Just press on with your own personal belief, right or wrong.

The Constitution makes it very clear that the people have the right to bear arms, because we need a well regulated militia to insure a free state. Anyways, I don't agree with everything in the Constitution, much less with how the Supreme Court interprets it. I'm not going to let a document from the 1700's be my judgement for how I think the country should live in the 21st century.
 
Quote from kmgilroy89:

...I'm not going to let a document from the 1700's be my judgement for how I think the country should live in the 21st century.

On the issue of gun control, I'm with you here, brother Gilroy.
 
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