When the hell did I tell you that I live with my parents in my home? Why are you having all these dillusions? You are gonna be so sorried for doing this to me. Because everything you are saying is totally wrong. i will have Al prove that he is real and you will lose 5k. Are you ready for that?
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When the hell did I tell you that I live with my parents in my home? Why are you having all these dillusions? You are gonna be so sorried for doing this to me. Because everything you are saying is totally wrong. i will have Al prove that he is real and you will lose 5k. Are you ready for that?
Actually I think Woody Allen said it best: "Those who can, do. Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't teach, teach gym."
I like your version better, Hcour. Are you enjoying this little pissing match as much as I am?
It's actually pretty funny. Wall Street firms grift investors day in, day out. This poor bugger Dean doesn't provide the "holy grail" and he's torn a new asshole.
I like your version better, Hcour. Are you enjoying this little pissing match as much as I am?
It's actually pretty funny. Wall Street firms grift investors day in, day out. This poor bugger Dean doesn't provide the "holy grail" and he's torn a new asshole.
winter aka pete i know is real...
lets just say, that for conversation here, that all those people were 100% real, then why the lies? why were different members told different conflicting things? I do not want to drag the real members in here because things were said in confidence, but dont try and make me seem like a liar. I will give you the benefit and say that the people were legit, but you did lie and that is the truth. Thank brad for causing alot of this shit, i was lied to and other members were, i dont care if you threw darts and the system was working and making me that much money i would never leave and no one else would, that is just to damn hard to believe, al, if he is real, needs major help..he is 100% mirror of brad, always missing the losers and always winning more than everyone on the winners..have you want come in here, al, pete, brad, whoever you want. if you didnt like brad you should of stopped this thread 1 day after it staretd not 1 month..your story has alot of discrepencies.
lets just say, that for conversation here, that all those people were 100% real, then why the lies? why were different members told different conflicting things? I do not want to drag the real members in here because things were said in confidence, but dont try and make me seem like a liar. I will give you the benefit and say that the people were legit, but you did lie and that is the truth. Thank brad for causing alot of this shit, i was lied to and other members were, i dont care if you threw darts and the system was working and making me that much money i would never leave and no one else would, that is just to damn hard to believe, al, if he is real, needs major help..he is 100% mirror of brad, always missing the losers and always winning more than everyone on the winners..have you want come in here, al, pete, brad, whoever you want. if you didnt like brad you should of stopped this thread 1 day after it staretd not 1 month..your story has alot of discrepencies.
You started this garbage and now you dont wanna finish it? You ready to put up 5k? i am calling my lawyer in the morning to get this deal going. And when Al proves himself that he is real, you hand me the 5k...I dont think you have the nuts for that. You still dont have the nuts to expose who you are.
Now about the conflicting stories..what conflicting stories? maybe you can start this garbage and sleep peacefully. But I am running a business here and I am not going to let you tear me apart by calling me a scam without proper proof.
Now about the conflicting stories..what conflicting stories? maybe you can start this garbage and sleep peacefully. But I am running a business here and I am not going to let you tear me apart by calling me a scam without proper proof.
"Oh, ad hominem, what would scoundrels do without you? You and 'straw man' are their last hope and refuge."
Seriously, why not go to collective2.com and just put up your system and be done with it? Does it make too much sense? is it too simple? Will that give you too much credibility as opposed to rancid sites like hundredshares?
If you're afraid too many poeple will ruin it but you really believe it to be profitable, then charge a high rate. And to attract people give them a free trial or only charge if you have a profitable month or quarter.
The only reason I can see why you would insist on platforms like hundredshares or scalptrades.com vs. collective is if you are indeed trying to scam people. Otherwise, if you really have an edge, then collective2.com will allow you to exploit it.
Or you can stick to your previous pattern and tell me something purile like my brain is smoking.
i know right plugger? The market makers screw these guys up every day and they cant do anything to them. But they all just pile in on me. Bidu sleeps at $75 and all of a sudden it pops up to 120, then GSCO has the nerves to come in and downgrade it and gaps it down 20 bucks. And everyone holding got screwed and lost probably 1/4 of their account if not all. Thats not scam? Me, charging $25 a day for a service that i work my butt of for has to take all this crap.
Dean
Thanks for your advice, but as I said before, I am not selling my system. So you are suggesting that all the vendors out ther just close their service and go to collective2 or whatever that is? I am not the only one offering such services. There are dozens of em. When you get all of THEM to put up their system in collective2, then i will do that.
I wish I had found this thread sooner. I am still in Dean's room, now HundredShares.com and have been continuously since I did a trial sub on the now locked "Scalpers P/L" thread (http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53847)
I am satisified with the results, I had winners and loosers under Dean's scalping room but was generally pleased with the results and the style of trades. In any case, the performance that Dean's has posted on his site has always matched what actually happened in the room on the days that I have been there. To those who say that is not true, post the date that you claim is false and we can go through the trades for that day, one by one.
There is so much misinformation and anger in this thread its hard to know where to begin to correct the errors and frankly its not really my place to try to convince anyone of what I know to be true.
Clearly there a couple of folks in here that got burned or were otherwise unhappy with something that took place but some of the posts here remind of a witch hunt rather than clear logical arguments. I too gotten burned in a bad BIDU scalp trade to the tune of around $1500, Dean made the call and I followed it and lost. I didnt complain on all the previous BIDU scalps that Dean called that made money and I certainly am not going to whine about the one loss. Net net, I'm breakeven since I started with Dean's room, including that one bad day (-$2000) and factoring in the costs of being in the room; I would be positive right now if I had just followed room calls only but alas I had to try some scalps on my own and lost. My P/L consistency has been much better since we switching from scalping to hundredshares trading and I'm optimistic that it will continue.
Those posts about Dean's site registration, where he lives, etc. puzzle me. I'm paying $125/week for trading calls. If I'm not happy with the calls over time then I will cancel my membership. Now explain to me why I should care who Dean is or where he lives?
To those who say why should you pay for trading calls? I guess this thread is inhabited by the 5% of traders that are successful at making money all the time - I would think that many ET readers would love to get good calls and learn how to trade better by being in a room like this, clearly its not for everyone.
I don't think it would make sense for Dean to do a Collective2 system, I've played with that site and unless something has changed the calls come by email - just a few seconds delay could make a huge difference with the types of trades we make (which are often breakout trades)
I also don't understand why anyone would want the person giving you calls to also be trading them (which would almost have to be front-running by definition).
BTW, I made $475 (net comm) with Dean's calls from this morning
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