Warren Buffett Says America Is "So Rich" It Can Afford Single Payer

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Theresa May Apologizes for Delays in Britain’s Health System
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• day after denying that the National Health Service was facing a crisis, Prime Minister Theresa May of Britain apologized on Thursday for delays throughout the health care agency as it scrambled to cope with a particularly difficult winter season.
  
  “I know it’s difficult, I know it’s frustrating, I know it’s disappointing for people, and I apologize,” she said in a television interview after being asked if she would be happy if a relative were put through the delays that patients were facing.
  
  A flu outbreak, colder weather and high levels of respiratory illness have put an unusually severe strain on the N.H.S. this winter, forcing the service to postpone thousands of nonurgent surgeries and outpatient appointments to free up hospital beds and staff.
  
  And all that comes against a backdrop of years of austerity-driven budget restraints, as well as staffing shortages that many health experts attribute to the anti-immigrant atmosphere fostered by Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union, which is driving foreign health care workers back to their home countries.
  
  In several emergency wards across the country, patients are having to wait more than 12 hours before they are tended to by a health professional. Hospital corridors are brimming with patients waiting for wards to be freed up, and nonurgent cases are being referred to pharmacies or general practitioners.
  

***the Socialists are running out of your money

 

[newwurldmn]

He is not required to NOT pay a dividends to shareholders.

His accumulated wealth (and those shareholders who do likewise) and pass most of this on to charity avoid income and capital gains taxes. He cries about the rates but then does everything he personally can do to avoid paying them.

A VERY powerful man called this behavior "smart."

40,000,000 people agreed with him.

Further, it's not hypocritical for Buffet to call for a single payer health system and to prudently manage his taxes. Unlike you, he pays a substantial portion of the health insurance for hundreds of thousands of his employees. So by your own logic, you should not be opining on healthcare as you don't pay nearly as much as he does.

 

[Martinghoul]

A "community" is an abstract concept, it doesn't exist and therefore it can't have rights and freedoms, only people, individuals can have that.
There is no drama. I'm being literal. What you are stating is that "a society, greater good, or anything collective" may have the right to impose something for a given individual, that is simply wrong and that is the basis of every totalitarian regime there was in history.
I never talked about confiscating anything, you simply said that if people want to opt out, they had to move. That implies that if an american, who was born in the U.S. and never opted in for all the socialist programs that have been implemented in the U.S. along decades should move out, since the majority voted for them.
I've stated again and again that there is no free riding in a system where everything is private... On the other hand, the system which you defend is full of it... Never in the history of the U.S. there were so many people living at the expense of others, producing nothing and just living like parasites, exactly because of the collectivist ideas that you defend. Yet, the people who sustain all of this cannot opt out e stop paying and sustaining all those parasites. It's easy to see the if a part of the country can vote to make the other part sustain them and get nothing in return, that is exactly what they will do(and did). The problem is that again, this goes directly against the individual freedom of each person that delivers the money under threat of arrest and they never actively agreed to this. So your solution is that people that never agreed to this situation move to another country because of an obligation that they didn't individually sign up for and that was imposed on them by others.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one, I'm afraid...

I suppose this is a debate as old as human civilization itself, so I doubt that I can contribute anything meaningfully new to it. Neither could I hope to convince you that you're wrong, given that so much has been written on the subject by much better people than I could ever hope to be (starting with Aristotle).

 

[NeoTrader]

We will have to agree to disagree on this one, I'm afraid...

I suppose this is a debate as old as human civilization itself, so I doubt that I can contribute anything meaningfully new to it. Neither could I hope to convince you that you're wrong, given that so much has been written on the subject by much better people than I could ever hope to be (starting with Aristotle).

We don't have too... I really couldn't care less. And people like you are the reason the famous 2nd Amendment was written. Anticipating that government can always become increasingly tyrannical, if it gets to a point where it is unbearable, people will have the means to fight back.
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a FREE state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

I really hope that it never reaches that point, because it would be a tragedy. But if it does, those who really believe in freedom, personal responsability and individuality will be there to stand against all this nonsense that keeps creeping into their lives.

It happened before and for the same reasons that are being discussed, so if necessary, it can happen again...

 

[Frederick Foresight]

In the latest example of a multi-billionaire "knowing" what is best for the average American, Berkshire founder Warren Buffett told PBS that UK-style single-payer healthcare would be the best system for the US.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-27/out-touch-billionaire-warren-buffett-says-america-so-rich-it-can-afford-single-payer?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+zerohedge/feed+(zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline,+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero)

I think Buffett has repeatedly proven himself to be a better big-picture guy than anyone you know or have even heard of.

 

[SunTrader]

A VERY powerful man called this behavior "smart."

40,000,000 people agreed with him.

Further, it's not hypocritical for Buffet to call for a single payer health system and to prudently manage his taxes. Unlike you, he pays a substantial portion of the health insurance for hundreds of thousands of his employees. So by your own logic, you should not be opining on healthcare as you don't pay nearly as much as he does.

A VERY powerful man called this behavior "smart." - Trumpie the Apprentice?

40,000,000 people agreed ...... - What nonsense are you referring to?

As for how many people Buffett pays the health insurance of .. it is none.

Private company health insurance just like salary are earned not given.

 

[Banjo]

I think Buffett has repeatedly proven himself to be a better big-picture guy than anyone you know or have even heard of.

If you look hard enough you'll discover your referenced sentence is the lead into the article. It has nothing to do with my personal views. I post articles for one reason only, in order to judge the temperature of the discussion they generate. ET is a quite adequate social laboratory reflective of disparate points of perception.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

If you look hard enough you'll discover your referenced sentence is the lead into the article. It has nothing to do with my personal views.

My apologies, then. The tenor of the opening comment was dismissive, and I just assumed you concurred since you posted it and did not bother to comment otherwise. I will try to be less presumptuous next time.

But now that you brought it up, where do you stand on Buffett's position and zerohedge's disparagement of him?

 

[SunTrader]

Banjo - To make that clear it would have been better to include the headline banner again in the first post as well. I also mistakenly thought that the thread topic was your sentiment and will keep in mind why it is you posts these articles to begin with.

 

[newwurldmn]

A VERY powerful man called this behavior "smart." - Trumpie the Apprentice?

40,000,000 people agreed ...... - What nonsense are you referring to?

As for how many people Buffett pays the health insurance of .. it is none.

Private company health insurance just like salary are earned not given.

Donald Trump in the second debate where he said his ability to lower his tax rate to single digits made him smart (and not unqualified to be president). 40,000,000 people voted for him to be president.

Private company health insurance might be a form of compensation, but it's still health insurance that is purchased and managed. Wouldn't it be better if he could just pay people more instead of having to buy health insurance for them because they can't do it themselves?