Single payer won't work but it would be better than what we have. Have a friend in Canada who is in the construction business. Worker broke his leg. Friend loads him up and races him to hospital or clinic. They make broken leg person sit while they do nothing. Friend gets really pissed and grabs a wheel chair puts broken leg patient in wheelhair...rolls him out of hospital and races to another hospital. Broken leg more important than snotty nose or skinned knee.
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Warren Buffett Says America Is "So Rich" It Can Afford Single Payer
- Thread starter Banjo
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You could have the state pay for the unemployed and companies pay for their employees.
The state system that covers the unemployed could use generic imported drugs to lower the cost and people signed up would not be able to sue for negligence lowering insurance costs for doctors. Companies could utilise the state system, for a fee, for part time and low paid workers. This would provide income for the state system and still allow private insurance for full time employees.
Well if you are going to take away our health insurance, couldn't the government at least give us Medical Savings Accounts? We could have Single Payer pay for some of it. He has all kinds of money for healthcare.Outlawing insurance companies would drive the costs down on any area. Insurance companies give birth to greed which knows no limits. Scuttle them. Prices will drop amazingly low. Docs will compete to give you their best service at their best rates if you are paying as they know you will just run to another doc if they don't. They now just bill outrageous sums to insurance companies and care less about the patient. They just want more money so what do they do?.. program more visits ..look at you for 5 minutes schedule..bill huge amounts to insurance...schedule another visit in two weeks..fer more money..then bill the insurance companies again. Rinse and repeat. Keeps the money coming in. The insurance companies raise the premiums so they can make money hand over fist while forcing the gov to bail them out when they get in trouble..Do you really think damn iv fluids cost 11,000? Why did you wait so long? Could it be cause they had programmed tons of other visits before you so they could get more money. Could it be they knew you were in "the bag" they had you? You needed them ..not they needed you? Could it be you could wait until they got good and ready to fix your problem ...but in the meantime while you wait they can make more money off scheduled up visits? You ain't going nowhere. Could it be you are truely a sick person ..so you gotta wait? Could it be they will just get to you when they can and want to?
Do away with medical insurance entirely. That in itself will produce quality healthcare as doctors compete and it will put a damper on greed and only the best will rise thru graduate school to become doctors. Service will get better. Costs will go down. Just visit some other countries. Americans are getting screwed by healthcare costs with its root being greed..pure greed...and a system that foments greed.
If people have to pay their own medical bill they wont race to the emergency room for a snotty nose and docs bill insurance 3000 dollars to show them how to blow their nose on a tissue paper. Skinned knees will be treated at home with soap and water and triple A antibiotic or iodine..etc. Flu with a little whiskey..lemon..honey..etc....home remedies will abound. People won't run to hospital with a sprained knuckle if they are paying for the visit themselves. Docs will have so few people in waiting rooms they will be praying for more patients to come in and for someone to please get sick so they can make a payday. And when they do get a patient they will take their time and show some darn concern. Of course all this is my opinion only but i think it to be a pretty good opinion.
The state "pays" for nothing. Taxpayers confiscated wealth pays for whatever the state arbitrarily decides. And that is mostly whatever gets them reelected.You could have the state pay for the unemployed and companies pay for their employees.
The state borrows money to be paid back by the yet to be born.The state "pays" for nothing. Taxpayers confiscated wealth pays for whatever the state arbitrarily decides. And that is mostly whatever gets them reelected.
Well if you would let me live longer with Single Payer I could pay it all back before I die!The state borrows money to be paid back by the yet to be born.
%%But man "disease merchants"? You are off the rails here. Hope you are not going to be sick in your life. Doctor's spend entire their precious young life in slaving away and studying (4 years of pre med, 4 years of med, 3 years of residency and 3 years of fellowship after highschool), while this community is pointing and clicking away. They are paid probably little higher, but not that high compared to executives of capital america.
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Some are, srinir,[ +good rebuke on DM] but as you noted , we don't do broad brushes. I had a network give me free book written by Dr Reginald Cherry MD, one of the more skillful+ studious medical doctors. NOT all doctors study as much as they should.; many do not STUDY AS MUCH AS THEY SHOULD
Even US senator [Dem]Max of Montana warned ''ACA is TRAINWRECK''============================================================================PS This is to all; calling HEALTH insurance ''health care'' is like calling tow truck insurance ''car care'' LOL. Thanks
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Some are, srinir,[ +good rebuke on DM] but as you noted , we don't do broad brushes. I had a network give me free book written by Dr Reginald Cherry MD, one of the more skillful+ studious medical doctors. NOT all doctors study as much as they should.; many do not STUDY AS MUCH AS THEY SHOULD
Even US senator [Dem]Max of Montana warned ''ACA is TRAINWRECK''============================================================================PS This is to all; calling HEALTH insurance ''health care'' is like calling tow truck insurance ''car care'' LOL. Thanks
For 98percent of the population, lack of health insurance would mean lack of access to health care.
%%For 98percent of the population, lack of health insurance would mean lack of access to health care.
Possible,New W;
but let us see .
All US military+ many vets gets health care[not considered insurance@ all].US Military service estimated @7% so its already not 2%/98%.
Medical cost sharing[maybe not legal in Montanna,LOL]; not insurance@ all , much better, unless one chooses to live in Montana]. I saw 4 of those first google search.I also cut a loss earlier in the year..... myself; that is much better than the other way.
Many people know[ from experience] cash is better than insurance; but plenty of non cash moves work , which is beyond my notes here[Dr Reginld Cherry .....others]
Frankly I could go on + on; but I know how to cut a loss,do you?? >> Let us see??
And related to that but separate ''ACA is a TRAINWRECK''===========================================================================Thanks for your comment NewW.
I am all for the single payer system.
But man "disease merchants"? You are off the rails here. Hope you are not going to be sick in your life. Doctor's spend entire their precious young life in slaving away and studying (4 years of pre med, 4 years of med, 3 years of residency and 3 years of fellowship after highschool), while this community is pointing and clicking away. They are paid probably little higher, but not that high compared to executives of capital america.
No wonder society has such low opinion of traders and high regard to physicians.
It's not just pay. All that time and money that doctors invest in their training as well as the risk they take every day when performing their surgeries, writing prescriptions, administering medicine is all risk. If a CEO botches a company, he can usually get a job somewhere else and continue his career. If a doctor botches a surgery, his or her career is usually over. CEO's and traders don't have to carry malpractice insurance. The risk and opportunity cost alone justifies the higher salary. For all the people who wish that doctors were paid the same as teachers and government workers, I wish that they lived in a society where that was true.