Warren 2020

[Tsing Tao]

Trump stealing billions from already allocated defense budget for his pet project is fake news now.

I didn't say it was fake news, Ricter. You posted a video explaining how congress had given up authority to the President long ago, and how other Presidents had done things that were against the constitution, just like Trump doing this. But as is the case with just about every other instance of comparability, you only have a problem when Trump does it.

Now, please show where billions are being stolen by Trump. Not some video of someone whose TDS matches your own, show me where the numbers specifically call it out and point to the theft.

 

[UsualName]

agreed, let's just say that in the words of the late Charlie Murphy, Trump is a:

I can't say a democratic controlled congress wouldn't capitulate to a left leaning populists; as the left generally overreaches, but the right has been absolutely atrocious in cowering to Trump.

What do you mean by left-leaning populists? Technically, Trump ran on a very left leaning populist platform considering his campaigned on stances on social security, Medicare, healthcare, taxes etc.

I’m not saying that’s what he delivered but that is left leaning populism. That is not to be confused with economic socialism, the green new deal, repealing border laws, Medicare for all etc. These issues are not populist issues at all even though they may be far left issues.

It’s an important distinction.

 

[Cuddles]

Now, please show where billions are being stolen by Trump. Not some video of someone whose TDS matches your own, show me where the numbers specifically call it out and point to the theft.

If I run city council and redirect funds from inner city schools to something that pleases my ego (make no mistake, the wall is a feel-good project) like a buying a Corvette, it's no longer stealing.<<<this is where you are

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

What do you mean by left-leaning populists? Technically, Trump ran on a very left leaning populist platform considering his campaigned on stances on social security, Medicare, healthcare, taxes etc.

I’m not saying that’s what he delivered but that is left leaning populism. That is not to be confused with economic socialism, the green new deal, repealing border laws, Medicare for all etc. These issues are not populist issues at all even though they may be far left issues.

It’s an important distinction.

I have even heard this persistent claim that Biden is a moderate. Funny dat.

Only in a world where the rest of field is to the left of Che Guevera.

Only two moderates in the race, that I can think of right now are Tim Ryan, the Montana guy, and maybe Delaney which would be three I guess. Not sure I am up to speed on what he thinks. Not sure he is either.

 

[Tsing Tao]

If I run city council and redirect funds from inner city schools to something that pleases my ego (make no mistake, the wall is a feel-good project) like a buying a Corvette, it's no longer stealing.<<<this is where you are

Where is the proof the billions were stolen from the Pentagon, and to what project? I'm just looking for a budget adjustment. You have one?

Because that was the video you posted and are saying is factual. "Trump Stole Billions from the Pentagon".

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

If I run city council and redirect funds from inner city schools to something that pleases my ego (make no mistake, the wall is a feel-good project) like a buying a Corvette, it's no longer stealing.<<<this is where you are

If you did that, that would make you Mayor of Baltimore.

 

[Cuddles]

Where is the proof the billions were stolen from the Pentagon, and to what project? I'm just looking for a budget adjustment. You have one?

Because that was the video you posted and are saying is factual. "Trump Stole Billions from the Pentagon".

yeah, yeah, all news are fake news

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/05/us/trump-border-wall-military-families.html
No New School at Fort Campbell: The Money Went to Trump’s Border Wall

This week, the families discovered that they would not get the new middle school they were expecting so that President Trump could build his border wall. The school is on the list of 127 projects, touching nearly every facet of American military life, that will be suspended to shift $3.6 billion to the wall.

The Pentagon’s decision to divert $62.6 million from the construction of Fort Campbell’s middle school means that 552 students in sixth, seventh and eighth grades will continue to cram themselves in, 30 to a classroom in some cases, at the base’s aging Mahaffey Middle School. Teachers at Mahaffey will continue to use mobile carts to store their books, lesson plans and homework assignments because there is not enough classroom space. Students stuffed into makeshift classrooms-within-classrooms will continue to strain to figure out which lesson to listen to and which one to filter out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/03/us/politics/pentagon-border-wall.html?module=inline
Pentagon to Divert Money From 127 Projects to Pay for Trump’s Border Wall

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judg...tation-tyranny

After Congress expressly declined to give him that money, Trump signed into law – rather than vetoed – the legislation that denied him the funds he sought and then spent the money anyway.

 

[El OchoCinco]

 

[piezoe]

yeah, yeah, all news are fake news

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/05/us/trump-border-wall-military-families.html
No New School at Fort Campbell: The Money Went to Trump’s Border Wall

This week, the families discovered that they would not get the new middle school they were expecting so that President Trump could build his border wall. The school is on the list of 127 projects, touching nearly every facet of American military life, that will be suspended to shift $3.6 billion to the wall.

The Pentagon’s decision to divert $62.6 million from the construction of Fort Campbell’s middle school means that 552 students in sixth, seventh and eighth grades will continue to cram themselves in, 30 to a classroom in some cases, at the base’s aging Mahaffey Middle School. Teachers at Mahaffey will continue to use mobile carts to store their books, lesson plans and homework assignments because there is not enough classroom space. Students stuffed into makeshift classrooms-within-classrooms will continue to strain to figure out which lesson to listen to and which one to filter out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/03/us/politics/pentagon-border-wall.html?module=inline
Pentagon to Divert Money From 127 Projects to Pay for Trump’s Border Wall

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judg...tation-tyranny

After Congress expressly declined to give him that money, Trump signed into law – rather than vetoed – the legislation that denied him the funds he sought and then spent the money anyway.

Please correct me if I am wrong. Federal budget year ends in Oct. The talk is about next years pentagon budget, not this years, Right? Next year's budget has a provision in the House bill forbidding any pentagon money from being diverted to building a wall. The Senate hasn't passed the bill yet. The house is not going to give an inch on this, it would seem. I don't think this business of using pentagon money to build the wall mexico is supposed to be paying for is going anywhere. It's just more Trump bullshit to fool his disciples.

 

[piezoe]

I found this on the Time Magazine site.

Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island, the top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said the Trump administration “is trying to circumvent Congressional authority” and said the action should be struck down by the courts. “If it stands, future Presidents will make similar end-runs to try and tap defense dollars for anything a President wants to label a ‘national emergency,’” Reed said, adding: “With this move, President Trump is short-changing our troops and taxpayers and forcing them to bear the burden of his broken, preposterous campaign promise.”


The Pentagon has developed different accounting schemes to pay for the wall. It has already taken $2.5 billion that had been allocated for military personnel and transferred it into a counter-drug account, a move that gave the military authority to take measures to support federal law enforcement efforts to stop drug trafficking, such as building barriers. That money is now being used to build more than 120 miles of border wall.


The Sierra Club, American Civil Liberties Union and Southern Border Communities Coalition are currently challenging the decision in the courts. However, the Supreme Court said last month in a 5-4 vote that wall construction can continue while the federal appeals process plays out.

I need to pay more attention. I was not ware that boy sexual assaulter and company had voted to let the wall construction continue while the court cases play out.