Warren 2020

[TreeFrogTrader]

She pulled in like $5M yesterday from donors. Her biggest haul yet.

And as posted yesterday, she announced that she is taking superpac money which is above and beyond the direct donations surge. You can bet the little dnc drones are running around getting potential donors to the dnc to give to her superpac rather than to the dnc. That way they preserve their fiefdom- which bernie would/is destroy- but dont get caught stiffing bernie on dnc money as they have done before.

She has money now to take her through SuperTuesday which is her intermediate survival goal. If she does well there, that will be another leg up and money follows support. If she doesnt. well she doesnt. But dropping out before SuperT was the dumpster fire to be avoided.

 

[smallfil]

Super Tuesday March 3 would be the pivotal date when thousands of delegates are awarded. Barring any last minute switches in sentiment, it looks very likely Bernie Sanders will get majority of the delegates at stake but, not enough to win outright leading to the brokered Democrat Party Convention. The plan I read in an article is to cobble together the delegates of the losers and use that to deny Bernie Sanders the nomination. Remember that question on the Nevada debate. Should the candidate with the most delegates going to the Democrat Convention win the nomination even without a majority or allow the nomination to play out? Everyone on the stage with the exception, of Bernie Sanders said to allow the process to play out which means Bernie Sanders is screwed no matter how many delegates he amasses?

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Super Tuesday March 3 would be the pivotal date when thousands of delegates are awarded. Barring any last minute switches in sentiment, it looks very likely Bernie Sanders will get majority of the delegates at stake but, not enough to win outright leading to the brokered Democrat Party Convention. The plan I read in an article is to cobble together the delegates of the losers and use that to deny Bernie Sanders the nomination. Remember that question on the Nevada debate. Should the candidate with the most delegates going to the Democrat Convention win the nomination even without a majority or allow the nomination to play out? Everyone on the stage with the exception, of Bernie Sanders said to allow the process to play out which means Bernie Sanders is screwed no matter how many delegates he amasses?

Yes indeed.

SuperT is about 40% of the delegates for the entire country.

In some ways this is nothing new, except this cycle it really is. This is the first time that Cali has moved their date up to join SuperT and Cali has about 25% or so of the delegates for the entire country.

In addition, this is the first cycle where the superdelegates do not get to vote on the first ballot. In the past someone like Hillary could eyeball how SuperTuesday was shaping up but also know that she had a pile of delegates in her hip pocket already.

Thus my earlier couple posts where I have said "this thing is coming atcha fast now, much faster than you think." People are talking about preparing for Nevada etc, etc. Nevada is gonna be history by the end of the weekend. And all this bloviating about Joe and S.C- well S.C is next week. Gonna be history. Then the following week SuperTuesday.

I have been very open in conceding that the Comrade has a good trajectory for taking the majority before the convention. Honestly though, the math is good except it isn't. It looks good if you assume he still has lots of upside which I don't. Even if I took those magic mushrooms and gave him as much as 40% of delegates in SuperT, then that would mean he is getting 40% of the nations 40% of the total delegates. So from there, he has to go on to make the overall ending average above 50%. Oy. I don't see it. I don't have trouble seeing why others do because there is a logic and a momentum that could show him going there. I just don't see it yet though. I could see it if Pokey dropped out and just flat out eliminated any possibility that she would be sucking up even a small number of votes which if added to Bernies would give him an additional boost. But I dont see that yet either. Not saying it could not come after SupertT, but I would have to see the results of that election. I think they are all in trouble. ie hello brokered convention.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Ok, question for everyone. Who would inflict the most damage on the country, Hillary or Sanders?

Well, I guess I'm on the other side of this because I think Sanders is far worse for the country. I also think a Sanders victory helps the down ballot rather than hurting it. Hillary, criminally corrupt hack that she is, would be a business as usual prez and I doubt much would change in a substantive way. Sanders in the oval either has us in a state of anarchy and rioting in the streets as his policies get rejected, and/or in an economic disaster the likes of which we have never seen if they get enacted.
I will also say that a Trump victory, regardless of his opponent, will also have us dealing with a substantial uptick in radical left violence. They'll really go nuts if it happens to be Sanders getting beat, but defeat will be met with a violent reaction. They ain't going away quietly into the night.

 

[Cuddles]

Ok, question for everyone. Who would inflict the most damage on the country, Hillary or Sanders?

Trump. Sanders will likely contend with a split Congress and a partisan SCOTUS. At most, he'd tackle health Care

 

[UsualName]

Yes indeed.

SuperT is about 40% of the delegates for the entire country.

In some ways this is nothing new, except this cycle it really is. This is the first time that Cali has moved their date up to join SuperT and Cali has about 25% or so of the delegates for the entire country.

In addition, this is the first cycle where the superdelegates do not get to vote on the first ballot. In the past someone like Hillary could eyeball how SuperTuesday was shaping up but also know that she had a pile of delegates in her hip pocket already.

Thus my earlier couple posts where I have said "this thing is coming atcha fast now, much faster than you think." People are talking about preparing for Nevada etc, etc. Nevada is gonna be history by the end of the weekend. And all this bloviating about Joe and S.C- well S.C is next week. Gonna be history. Then the following week SuperTuesday.

I have been very open in conceding that the Comrade has a good trajectory for taking the majority before the convention. Honestly though, the math is good except it isn't. It looks good if you assume he still has lots of upside which I don't. Even if I took those magic mushrooms and gave him as much as 40% of delegates in SuperT, then that would mean he is getting 40% of the nations 40% of the total delegates. So from there, he has to go on to make the overall ending average above 50%. Oy. I don't see it. I don't have trouble seeing why others do because there is a logic and a momentum that could show him going there. I just don't see it yet though. I could see it if Pokey dropped out and just flat out eliminated any possibility that she would be sucking up even a small number of votes which if added to Bernies would give him an additional boost. But I dont see that yet either. Not saying it could not come after SupertT, but I would have to see the results of that election. I think they are all in trouble. ie hello brokered convention.

Sanders could end up with <50% of the Super Tuesday delegates because of 15% threshold rule. Vote share does not equal delegates.

 

[smallfil]

Well, I guess I'm on the other side of this because I think Sanders is far worse for the country. I also think a Sanders victory helps the down ballot rather than hurting it. Hillary, criminally corrupt hack that she is, would be a business as usual prez and I doubt much would change in a substantive way. Sanders in the oval either has us in a state of anarchy and rioting in the streets as his policies get rejected, and/or in an economic disaster the likes of which we have never seen if they get enacted.
I will also say that a Trump victory, regardless of his opponent, will also have us dealing with a substantial uptick in radical left violence. They'll really go nuts if it happens to be Sanders getting beat, but defeat will be met with a violent reaction. They ain't going away quietly into the night.

Personally, I think Bernie Sanders would be the ideal nominee for President Donald Trump and he would trounce him easily. Reality is even the Democrat Globalist Wing know it as well which is why they are going to stop Bernie Sanders at all costs. Did you see the Nevada debate where all the other 5 candidates said to let the process go on till the very end? Bernie Sanders of course, wanted to be the nominee if he has the most delegates going into the Democratic Convention. The plan if the reports are accurate is that they are going to harvest the delegates of the losers, Bloomberg, Warren, Buttigieg, Biden, Klobuchar and lump it into one mass of delegates plus the 400 super delegates should be a very potent voting bloc. I think that is when Hillary Clinton comes out to say, the candidates cannot beat President Trump so, she is willing to run again to save the Democrat Party from defeat. Ha ha ha! So, the heroine is given all those delegates and the Democrats are happily ever after. Of course, disgruntled Bernie Sanders supporters will tear the Democrat Convention to shreds, maybe, event burn some cars or businesses nearby. They will not support Hillary Clinton having been robbed a 2nd time.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Personally, I think Bernie Sanders would be the ideal nominee for President Donald Trump and he would trounce him easily. Reality is even the Democrat Globalist Wing know it as well which is why they are going to stop Bernie Sanders at all costs. Did you see the Nevada debate where all the other 5 candidates said to let the process go on till the very end? Bernie Sanders of course, wanted to be the nominee if he has the most delegates going into the Democratic Convention. The plan if the reports are accurate is that they are going to harvest the delegates of the losers, Bloomberg, Warren, Buttigieg, Biden, Klobuchar and lump it into one mass of delegates plus the 400 super delegates should be a very potent voting bloc. I think that is when Hillary Clinton comes out to say, the candidates cannot beat President Trump so, she is willing to run again to save the Democrat Party from defeat. Ha ha ha! So, the heroine is given all those delegates and the Democrats are happily ever after. Of course, disgruntled Bernie Sanders supporters will tear the Democrat Convention to shreds, maybe, event burn some cars or businesses nearby. They will not support Hillary Clinton having been robbed a 2nd time.

There has been a Copernican shift that has not played out and will not play out until a few weeks after SuperT when reality sets in and regular voters not junkies or pundits begin to weigh in more and actually follow the candidates.

Up until very recently the average polled voter allegedly said they wanted Joe or the next candidate in line who can beat Trump. Doesnt matter whether we agree them. It matters that that is the lens that they look at it through. And if they watched their lefty media, yup, they were confirming that Joe is the man to beat Trump.

But that is not true anymore if you support Bernie. Even the lefty media says that this is a wild, wild, wild shot at taking Trump down. So basically six weeks ago voters were saying "I am with Biden because everything I read and hear says he is the one to beat Trump." But now they are having to ask themselves: "Do I want Bernie even if all the reports I hear indicate that it is very doubtful that he can take Trump down?" And oh by the way, I just saw an Indian girl take a powerful white man down.

Yeh, there is a ways to go with this shiite. There is definitely a core of Banzai Soldiers for Bernie whose goal is to get him the nomination even he can't win. And maybe the roboposters can flood their email inboxes everyday with data showing that Donald Duck can beat Trump but their favorite little lefty network where they get all their info sure as hell is not talking that way. So why is that?

MORE TO COME.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Pocahonky neck and neck with Bernie in Massachusetts.

It will be a kick in the nads if Pokie loses the state she represents but the dynamic there these days is that the libs vote for the lefty-most candidate so if she can even compete with Bernie it is a feather in her bonnet. (y'all see what I did there?)


Elizabeth Warren neck-and-neck with Bernie Sanders in her home state of Massachusetts, poll finds
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ck-and-neck-sanders-massachusetts/4830207002/

 

[vanzandt]

Nevada Caucus going on and the Pokey thread is at the bottom of page 2!?

Can't have that. Where's TFT?