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Quote from canuckrookie:

And if someone in early 07 told you that there was major problems with the RE market you would have said the same thing right?

Actually, I was a bear well before the pack. I have always said that RE was going to implode.
 
Quote from PAPA ROACH:

Commodity complex is getting tagged today across the board. It is my conspiracy that Goldman has been tipped off on tomorrows suprise rate increase ot the FOMC meeting, and are liquidating volume today.


Quite the contrary.

The FED is cognizant of the economy slowing even FURTHER ( as reflected in the commodity sell-off ) . . . and as a result, spoke in rather "dovish" language this afternoon. And people here are talking about the FED raising rates during a Recession???

That has NEVER happened.
Put down the "crack-pipe" guys!
:D

Anyone notice where mortgage rates are lately? What has happened to Global markets the last couple of months? The commodity sell-off?

Of course not.
You guys are too busy smoking "crack".

As Bill Gross said, "You don't pull down the umbrella during a Monsoon."
 
Quote from PAPA ROACH:

HOLY SHIT you guys need to turn off the machine and go get laid!! This thread is not a call, it is a CONSPIRACY THEORY.

Hell if Landis would stop patting himself on the back, he may discover he has two arms!!

Go back and read your original post, douchebag.

Great "theory" by the way.
 
Quote from PAPA ROACH:

Rate cuts thusfar have hurt the broad economy via creating crippling inflation at the wrong time of an economic cycle. The rate cuts have not equated to lower mortgage or consumer rates, and in fact have created higher rates as the middle to far end of the curve rates are based on inflation. So higher inflation created by lower rates has created higher rates for consumers.

The only ones to have halfway benefited from lower rates are the banks we have and continue to socialize losses in. Go McCain, 4 more years!!!

An inflated currency is of great use to a nation with intractable debt so long as their creditors will put up with it. The question remains as to how much more abuse our creditors will stand as we inflate away the Bush war debt. My guess is that eventually the US may be forced to issue bonds denominated in a basket of currencies as were some Latin American Countries in the past.
 
Quote from piezoe:

An inflated currency is of great use to a nation with intractable debt so long as their creditors will put up with it. The question remains as to how much more abuse our creditors will stand as we inflate away the Bush war debt. My guess is that eventually the US may be forced to issue bonds denominated in a basket of currencies as were some Latin American Countries in the past.

I couldn't agree with you more on inflated debt, the problem that is reality in this situation is that the inflation created is now greatly hindering the ability to pay debt and thus we are starting a massive debt default spiral. With all the cheap labor and outsourcing of jobs, the average American houshold's pay has not kept up with the rate of inflation. Now with large asset deflation (housing), and a retreating stock market and rising unemployment, the loss of paper wealth and loss of jobs are also adding to the shit-storm.
 
Quote from Landis82:

Most of you "let the banks fail" proponents here on ET fail to realize the magnitude of the issues in our financial system. It's almost a waste of time to even try and explain it to you guys . . .

Man you sound really smart!

You know what really sounds smart? How about we pour more money into banks that don't know what the fudge they are doing so that they don't fail! I mean, they have to be smarter this time, right?

Sometimes you just need to flush the toilet and start over. Some of these "banks" need to know what pain means. But I forgot, the banks can cry to mommy to make it all better.
 
Quote from sprstpd:

Sometimes you just need to flush the toilet and start over. Some of these "banks" need to know what pain means. But I forgot, the banks can cry to mommy to make it all better.

You still don't get it, do you?

They ARE starting over.
There are ( and will be ) a TON of regulations that will limit severely "limit" the banks from here on out. You act as if everything happens in some sort of an
"if, then, else . . . " binary vacuum.

Very naive.
 
The Fed and the government are bending over backwards to prevent these pathetic banks from going under when they aren't worth saving.

Show me some regulations coming out of this. Maybe there will be, maybe there won't be. All I know is that these jackass banks deserve death but since we are turning into a socialistic country, they continue to survive. Part of capitalism is the cleansing of stupidity, which is not being allowed to happen.
 
Quote from sprstpd:

The Fed and the government are bending over backwards to prevent these pathetic banks from going under when they aren't worth saving.


Aren't worth saving?
Just because you say so?
And what evidence do you have of this?
Please be specific.

Do you have any idea why Bear Stearns got taken "over" by JP Morgan?
Ever hear of counter-party risk?
Guess not.

Which banks (in your opinion ) should be allowed to go under?

BofA?
Wachovia?
WAMU?
Merrill?
Lehman?

If large money center commercial banks are allowed to go under, where will CAPITAL FORMATION occur that facilitates business capital investment, job growth, etc.?

I'm still waiting for someone like yourself to answer that question . . . because none of you have been able to answer THIS question for months now.
 
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