Warning: HLV Trading?

Quote from Don Bright:



But, just to be "fair and balanced" if one of their officers wants to call me to discuss, I will be glad to chat. I always assume that there may be a chance that I'm missing something.

Don

Don,

Keep us posted after you speak with the officer of the company.

thanks,

wercurna
 
Quote from Don Bright:

I obviously cannot comment on the legalities of this venture, but the red flags seem to be there.

But, just to be "fair and balanced" if one of their officers wants to call me to discuss, I will be glad to chat. I always assume that there may be a chance that I'm missing something.

Don

Partial Quote from wercuna:

Don,

Keep us posted after you speak with the officer of the company.


I don't think many of us are holding our breath for a company officer
willing to contact Don Bright for a "chat".... :D
 
Quote from seisan:

I don't think many of us are holding our breath for a company officer willing to contact Don Bright for a "chat".... :D

...a HLV Trading company officer, that is...

Just might be a little too much risk involved in that undertaking... :D
 
A gentleman who says he is the "V" in "HLV" trading (the others represent his daughters?).....showed up here in Vegas today. Nice enough guy, seems to have been around the industry for a while. Bob and I chatted with him for a while....

Says he is a customer of a broker dealer (I suggested that he point out who that is....I'll leave that up to them).

I had to ask a couple of times what firm he was representing, but I give him credit for 'fessing up"....

I want to thank whoever on ET mentioned my post about HLV.

The "deal" pretty much speaks for itself. He says that there are plenty of people willing to trade with the type of deal he is offering....

I explained that I simply suggest that anyone getting involved with any Firm (especially if they put up any money whatsoever, and even if they don't)....do the normal checking...balance sheets, corporate structure, etc.

"Charlie" says he is providing a service for those between "etrade" and a firm like BT. He may be right.

Don
 
Quote from Don Bright:

A gentleman who says he is the "V" in "HLV" trading (the others represent his daughters?).....showed up here in Vegas today. Nice enough guy, seems to have been around the industry for a while. Bob and I chatted with him for a while....

Says he is a customer of a broker dealer (I suggested that he point out who that is....I'll leave that up to them).

I had to ask a couple of times what firm he was representing, but I give him credit for 'fessing up"....

I want to thank whoever on ET mentioned my post about HLV.

The "deal" pretty much speaks for itself. He says that there are plenty of people willing to trade with the type of deal he is offering....

I explained that I simply suggest that anyone getting involved with any Firm (especially if they put up any money whatsoever, and even if they don't)....do the normal checking...balance sheets, corporate structure, etc.

"Charlie" says he is providing a service for those between "etrade" and a firm like BT. He may be right.

Don

I think paying 1.25penny to 1penny per share is way
too expensive for traders to pay, and i don't think they
can find many serious profitable traders
 
Thanks Don for pointing out.

The trap is for the newbie. WIth job market so tight and people looking for some way of income, newbie's see an attraction in this. And lot of people think that although risk this is a easier task to make money. (and there are lot of simple people inthis cunning world).


my 2nd observation is that this firm is not offering any risk management features in their software. how would any one let use their account without training, risk management. That is a point to ponder....

SimSim
 
Quote from simsim:

Thanks Don for pointing out.

The trap is for the newbie. WIth job market so tight and people looking for some way of income, newbie's see an attraction in this. And lot of people think that although risk this is a easier task to make money. (and there are lot of simple people inthis cunning world).


my 2nd observation is that this firm is not offering any risk management features in their software. how would any one let use their account without training, risk management. That is a point to ponder....

SimSim

All good points, sim, Nana, Don...

The sad part is that some of these types will be awash in cash about a year from now....all at the expense of those who didn't have the advantage of these forums on ET... :mad:

Maybe "Charlie V" will begin? to post here on ET to clear up any questions regarding his new? endeavor...as a sponsor, of course... :D

Now having the benefit of "chatting" with Bright Brothers, I wonder if Mr. "V" might be making a few modifications to the wording of his mostly one-sided trader agreement this weekend...

Caveat-emptor!
 
I just wanted to repeat...that I respect Mr. V for coming to my office and chatting with Bob and I. I may have been a bit rough on him (not that he would care)...but at least he took the time to discuss business....much better than some of the other "spies" we've had here from some of the bigger firms. Sometimes I come off a little strong, and I really don't mean to.

Don
 
Quote from Don Bright:

I just wanted to repeat...that I respect Mr. V for coming to my office and chatting with Bob and I. I may have been a bit rough on him (not that he would care)...but at least he took the time to discuss business....much better than some of the other "spies" we've had here from some of the bigger firms. Sometimes I come off a little strong, and I really don't mean to.

Don


The guy has lots of guts to walk into your office and discuss his business model. Who ever he/firm is, he is simply trying to target those that still want to trade but have little money (less than 3000) to put down. Yes it is a bigger risk to go there then to go to bright or echo, but the desperate are willing to do that.
 
Quote from Don Bright:

If you can't see anything wrong there, then I can't really help you.

If you want to give your money to someone who says :

"You understand that the Company is not a securities brokerage firm, and holds no license
or registration from the SEC and NASD, but is a private company engaged in trading and investing in securities for its own account."

and:

"You understand that no interest shall accrue on either the Deposit Balance, the Trader Sub-Account, or any balances
therein from time to time. "

I could go on and on, but the regulars on this board will have a field day with this one.

They admit that they are not even registered, you get no interest on your money, you have to close out every day, they don't even say who their "broker" is...maybe they'll change it every day, or worse yet, sell the order floor (a questionalbe practice at best, especially if not disclosed). Their rates are exceptionally high for any serious trader.

Anyway, just a bit humorous, but on the more serious side....when traders get screwed, it's bad for the industry.

Rather than "bash them" on the public forum any more....feel free to PM me for additional comments.

Don Bright 702.739.1393

Don,

There's a snakeoil salesman greater than you. :D Not that I'm saying you are one. Trade-ya1 sees NOTHING with HLV Trading sleazy deal cuz he's probably trying to start his own prop shop. Look how he was ban trying to recruit on ET with such shady deals that most ET traders here wouldnt touch with a 10 foot pole!

Some people!

you go figure huh Don?
 
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