Warming is over as El Nino fades - Models failing.

[jem]

I was going to reply to FC. I spent 10 minutes writing and looking things up and was not nearly finished. I said to myself... I think stoic is about to unload on these drones anyway.
Your response exceeding my expectations 10 fold.

it should give pause to any thinking or even semi literate agw drone. the drones arguing with you should be ashamed of the ignorance they displayed. but of course they are not.

I noticed that ricter is conscious of how ridiculous his argument is ... so he went into his post a distraction mode.

I see!! So your claims are based on Professional and Amateur Meteorologist allegedly located ALL around the world in the 1800s with instruments to record the global temps to within 1/2 degree Celsius based on Ice water and the boiling point?

First I find it hard to accept that sufficient numbers of locations sampled to make the "Global" clam in the 1800s or even late 1800s. Second, I'd like to know just how and where they got ICE in say... Havana Cuba, or Cartagena Colombia, what's the source of Ice in Mumbai, Cairo, Casablanca, Manila, Fiji, New Caledonia, Mexico City, Rio de Janerio, Singapore, or Sydney just to name a few major locations around the world, without ice makers or electricity in the late 1800s. As for the boiling point, that depends on where and when you're doing the boiling. In Denver, the boiling point is ~ 95 C. of course the boiling point is the temperature at which the vapor pressure of the liquid is equal to the pressure exerted on the liquid by the surrounding atmosphere. (you might try Google on that..) Each 500 foot increase in altitude causes a drop of ~ 1 degree in the boiling point. The Barometric pressure can change, even at sea level. The Standard Boiling Point has been defined by IUPAC (International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry) since 1982 as the temperature at which boiling occurs under a pressure of 1 bar. (google that...) Therefore the boiling point can fluctuate. I agree that using Ice water (when available) and the boiling point to calibrate ones instruments is a good method to come close. However a few dozen, or a few hundred, or maybe even a few thousand people scattered around the globe in 1890, recording the temps with that technique of calibration so that present day AGW Chicken Little's can declare their possible end of the world (as we know it) oratory, based on an increase of 11 one thousandth of 1% in CO2, and with the alleged precision to declare an increase of 1/2 degree as the result, with undeniable certainty and representation to proclaim it as the "Global" condition. Well......

You call it denial!!!

I call it a healthy dose of skepticism. It's what thinking people do.


The source of the Nile discovered Aug. 1858

The United States Supreme Court legally declares the tomato to be a vegetable 1893

Mount Saint Elias, the second highest peak in the United States and Canada, is first ascended. 1897

 

[futurecurrents]

Translation:
"Even if we can only rely on the averages of a random sample of thermometers..... Even if we have to match the tree rings......... and we're sure the pollen records agree..... we're sure that "Global" temps are up 1/2 degree and the end is near, AND it's all mans fault."

Spoken like a true Chicken Little.

Yes, every respected climate scientist on earth believes that. Conservatives often do not.

Maybe you have not seen this. I suggest that you look at it. http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

And than you for confirming once again that you, like all deniers, are simply too stupid to understand it. This trait is common among the members of the stupid party.

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/how-the-stupid-party-created-donald-trump.301635/

 

[futurecurrents]

If you want a 3 min. egg in Denver, you'd better cook it 5 min.

Pretty smart of you, I'm sure they did not know that.

^for conservatives.....the above is satire.

oh wait. Conservatives don't know what "satire" means.

 

[Ricter]

Chemist here. Info is correct. I live at 5,900 foot altitude. Boiling point here normally is 200.5 F. Must adjust cooking time for anything boiled/braised. Example... Penne cooking time on box instructions says, "11 minutes", but it takes 14 minutes at this altitude.

South of Denver, north of Castle Rock, on an acreage, at 5,900 feet. Your wife works for a living, probably in Denver, hmm, Heritage Hills area, just south maybe.

 

[stoic]

I noticed that ricter is conscious of how ridiculous his argument is ... so he went into his post a distraction mode.

Ricter reminds me of the goofy side-kick. Family Matters had Urkel, Fred had Barney, Gene Aytry had Pat Buttram & Gabby Hayes, Roy Rodgers had Smiley Burnette.

and .......FC has Ricter.

(for those too young to remember the ones above.... just think of Jar Jar Binks of Star Wars)

 

[OddTrader]

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/past-present-and-future.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record

http://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...0-somebody-explain-how-global-temps-were.html

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GISSTemperature/giss_temperature2.php

http://a-sceptical-mind.com/part-1-who-counts-the-temperature

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/downloads-indicators-technical-documentation

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[futurecurrents]

Ricter reminds me of the goofy side-kick. Family Matters had Urkel, Fred had Barney, Gene Aytry had Pat Buttram & Gabby Hayes, Roy Rodgers had Smiley Burnette.

and .......FC has Ricter.

(for those too young to remember the ones above.... just think of Jar Jar Binks of Star Wars)

You wish you were half as smart as Ricter.

 

[gwb-trading]

You wish you were half as smart as smart as Ricter.

So you are just like Trump - the best you can do is insult people's intelligence while nothing intelligent whatsoever falls out of your mouth.

 

[futurecurrents]

Stoic, I repost these excellent links from Oddtrader which will tell you the answers to your questions. Should you actually want to know them, which is unlikely.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/past-present-and-future.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record

http://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...0-somebody-explain-how-global-temps-were.html

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GISSTemperature/giss_temperature2.php

http://a-sceptical-mind.com/part-1-who-counts-the-temperature

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/downloads-indicators-technical-documentation

 

[Ricter]

So you are just like Trump - the best you can do is insult people's intelligence while nothing intelligent whatsoever falls out of your mouth.

Just what stoic did.

Thanks, FC.