War!

Call me old-fashioned but before we launch a military attack on another country, shouldn't we go through the formality of a formal Declaration of War voted by the Congress? You know, like the Constitution requires?

Didn't some War Powers Act give the pres some latitude about that?? (Personally, I like the notion of only Congress being able to declare war.)
 
Didn't some War Powers Act give the pres some latitude about that?? (Personally, I like the notion of only Congress being able to declare war.)

Yes they've chipped away at it over the years, but an act of congress cannot override a constitutional requirement. Forcing congresspeople to actual vote for war would have a wonderful clarifying effect.
 
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...ns-uk-capture-oil-tanker-190706091738043.html
Iran religious leader threatens UK over capture of oil tanker
Official says Britain should be 'scared' of Iran's retaliation over seizure of Iranian tanker off the coast of Spain.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...-british-flagged-oil-tanker-retaliation-amid/
Iran denies seizing British-flagged oil tanker in Persian Gulf in retaliation amid rising tensions
 
Trump Says U.S. Shot Down Iranian Drone Near Strait of Hormuz
By
Josh Wingrove
July 18, 2019, 3:14 PM EDT Updated on July 18, 2019, 3:22 PM EDT
Bloomberg
  • USS Boxer took defensive action to destroy drone, Trump says
  • Tensions in Persian Gulf region on edge amid spate of attacks
President Donald Trump said the U.S. shot down and “immediately destroyed” an Iranian drone that approached the USS Boxer near the Strait of Hormuz, the lastest sign of escalating military tensions around the critical oil chokepoint.

The drone was a threat to the ship and its crew, Trump said at the White House on Thursday. The president said he’s calling “on other nations to protect their ships as they go through the Strait.” The Boxer is an amphibious assault ship.

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The USS Boxer in the East Sea on March 8, 2016.

Photographer: MCSN Craig Z. Rodarte/U.S. Navy via Getty Images

“The Boxer took defensive action against an Iranian drone which had closed into a very, very near distance -- approximately 1,000 yards, ignoring multiple calls to stand down and was threatening the safety of the ship and the ship’s crew,” Trump said.

Oil futures in New York clawed back a bit of the day’s 2.6% loss, climbing 34 cents a barrel after the announcement.

The comments come as tensions between Washington and Tehran remain high over a spate of attacks on cargo ships, the downing of an American drone and the British seizure of a tanker carrying Iranian oil.

Earlier in the day, the U.S. condemned Iranian naval activity in the Persian Gulf and demanded the Islamic Republic release a small tanker and its crew that its forces seized this week. A State Department official who asked not to be identified discussing the issue cited the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ “continued harassment” of vessels in and around the Strait.
 
Trump Says U.S. Shot Down Iranian Drone Near Strait of Hormuz
By
Josh Wingrove
July 18, 2019, 3:14 PM EDT Updated on July 18, 2019, 3:22 PM EDT
Bloomberg
  • USS Boxer took defensive action to destroy drone, Trump says
  • Tensions in Persian Gulf region on edge amid spate of attacks
President Donald Trump said the U.S. shot down and “immediately destroyed” an Iranian drone that approached the USS Boxer near the Strait of Hormuz, the lastest sign of escalating military tensions around the critical oil chokepoint.

The drone was a threat to the ship and its crew, Trump said at the White House on Thursday. The president said he’s calling “on other nations to protect their ships as they go through the Strait.” The Boxer is an amphibious assault ship.

60x-1.jpg

The USS Boxer in the East Sea on March 8, 2016.

Photographer: MCSN Craig Z. Rodarte/U.S. Navy via Getty Images

“The Boxer took defensive action against an Iranian drone which had closed into a very, very near distance -- approximately 1,000 yards, ignoring multiple calls to stand down and was threatening the safety of the ship and the ship’s crew,” Trump said.

Oil futures in New York clawed back a bit of the day’s 2.6% loss, climbing 34 cents a barrel after the announcement.

The comments come as tensions between Washington and Tehran remain high over a spate of attacks on cargo ships, the downing of an American drone and the British seizure of a tanker carrying Iranian oil.

Earlier in the day, the U.S. condemned Iranian naval activity in the Persian Gulf and demanded the Islamic Republic release a small tanker and its crew that its forces seized this week. A State Department official who asked not to be identified discussing the issue cited the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ “continued harassment” of vessels in and around the Strait.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...-s-navy-ship-shot-down-iranian-drone-n1031451

U.S. Marines jam an Iranian drone in the Gulf, destroying it
The U.S. “took defensive action” against a drone that had “closed into a very, very near distance,” Trump said.

U.S. Marines jammed an Iranian drone in the Gulf of Hormuz Thursday, senior defense officials said, bringing the aircraft down and destroying it. It was the latest in a series of tense incidents between Washington and Tehran.

President Donald Trump told reporters at the White House on Thursday that the USS Boxer — an amphibious assault ship — “took defensive action” against the Iranian drone that had “closed into a very, very near distance, approximately 1,000 yards.”


The drone was “threatening safety of the ship and the ship's crew” and “was immediately destroyed,” he said.
 
That awkward feeling when you actually have second doubts about what your government is telling you.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/19/us-says-iran-drone-shot-down-but-iran-says-trump-is-wrong.html

Iran rejects Trump's claim that the US Navy destroyed one of its drones

  • President Donald Trump said Thursday that a U.S. Navy ship had destroyed an Iranian drone in a defensive action.
  • Iran denies that any of its drones have been shot down, it suggests the U.S. may have shot down its own equipment.
  • International oil prices spiked around 2% on Friday morning.
 
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