Quote from plumlazy:
Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!
We are the victims....waaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!
Does it justify gouging, No it doesn't. Were the energy companies free to gouge, thanks to the Bill and Al show....damn well better believe it.
You blame bush for not stepping in *to see what was actually going on*.....heck man, Bush already knew what was going on, he could see it coming from miles away.
Could it be that Bush figured something like, "Oh well, they made their bed....they can carry it for a little while" (no nukes- no nukes - no power plants to be built here) Chances are....
Well, hey it has been pretty clear for quite some time that Ca. hasn't had much love for Bush either. A state that carried Clinton for two terms. I'm quite sure that he is not looking for Cal's vote ever. If he were to get it (highly doubtful), then fine, if not, then I'm sure it's not expected.
The president has a responsibility to do what is right, not what is convenient or petty agenda based.
Do you expect the president to run the state of Ca.....might want to consider the shafting that your Gov. Davis has been giving you.
So are you saying that what Bush has been doing is "petty agenda based?"
Well let me tell you that we didn't have a power problem on the east coast and the price of fuel is much cheaper here because of the lower taxes. I suggest that you look in your own backyard on some of this. Ask Gov. Davis, why that is.
Or let's take the easy way out and blame it on Bush and Bushes oil buddies.... because that's what this thread Really Is !!! All About Isn't It.
3 times you haven't answered my 2 simple questions.
good trading,
plumlazy
PS. Harrytrader - I have a real good idea what your agenda is too - come on be a man - admit it.
Does it justify gouging, no it doesn't. We agree on that.
Bush already knew what was going on? He knew of the illegal and immoral gouging practices? Well, he and Kenny Lay were buddies, so that wouldn't surprise me.
I never complained about the price of electricity beyond gouging, did I? You assume a lot of facts not in evidence, and it weakens your argument as a result, and demonstrates your personal bias.
Naturally I expect our fuel and energy prices to be higher, if there are higher costs in manufacturing them and transporting them. Who is against the electricity companies making a profit, a normal profit relative to other parts of the country? Electricity is not a whim for people---it is a necessity.
Imagine your 77 year old mother, on a fixed income, having to pay these extreme energy bills, all as a result of a mistake or blunder by local politicians. Does the federal government just look the other way, and say, "well, so what if she and other fixed income types suffer, it is not our problem, it is the bed they made, let them sleep in it."
I have had this discussion with an east coaster before, who is a consultant in the electric energy business. I suspect he knows a bit more about the energy business that most people, as it is his field of expertise. With his help, I understand what is going on in California, and why our costs should be higher to the tune of 15 to 20% in many cases.
Fine, accepted as the price we pay to live in paradise during the winter where the rest of the country lives in the cold and snow, and in the summer lives in the sweltering heat and humidity.
We had a discount for a long time, and now there is a period of normalization, which initially is a shock---but gouging was and is my point of the crime against citizens of the United States of America---not merely people who live in California. If the gougers were in Texas, it was an interstate commerce issue, and the responsibility of the Feds and Washington.
Oh, my friend who is the electric energy consultant, a staunch conservative, initially didn't believe California was being gouged.....until he saw the facts.
If what happened in California with the gouging was happening in Iraq right now, Bush would step in and stop it.
He would call it war profiteering, and say that "We Americans don't tolerate such type of behavior."
p.s. I don't recall the questions you refer to, if important, or valid to the nature of this thread repeat them and I will answer them.
If they were surrounded by "waaahaaaa" comments, I didn't bother reading them.
Intelligent debate, fine. Flaming juvenile stuff, no.
