War Optimism

[iceman1]

Quote from stocon:

Is anyone feeling a little less confident about the War? I know it's early but my stomach feels alot worse today than Friday. Market is betting big on a cake walk and it's usually right, although the futures are dn, this could simply be profit taken, we'll see. l support w and his policy, it's just starting to feel real ugly, for lack of a better word and it could be a real test for public support if it does not go too smoothy as anticipated. I say this because I can't believe how quickly my own attitude has changed from overly confident to overly concerned.

you should examine that attitude and why you felt so confident in the first place...

many other more sober less "gung ho" people were not as in favor of this whole thing in the first place... and frankly although as a US citizen one should support the troops... that "concern" could turn into a "lesson" for many loud-mouthed, old fart war mongers in Washington. But as per Nam it will be paid for by the blood of others.

That said... I hope we stand tall.

But unlike you I don't give Bush a pass on this one, yet.

 

[iceman1]

Quote from compisnada2002:

So green dog, whats the beef. I support all of the decsions that our congress makes, after all the majority of the US voted them in. I guess you have to be a little heartless/ruthless to stomach war. It is not my fault that some are soft and can't handle intense situations. But it is the person who screems for peace that freezes up in violent enviroments and gets hurt. I am little more adverse and can handle whatever. Some ask why and I can only say it is only becouse I have no choice.



comp

guys like you sitting at home all warm and fuzzy while others stand tall on behalf of your hyperbolic patriotic hogwash, sort of makes a lot of us sick! War ain't glamorous bro... and it's not exciting buddy. And you don't necessarily need it to establish oneself as having power if there are other ways to accomplish that objective.

Bravado like yours' makes me p***!

Why don't you grab a weapon and stand watch rather than shoot the bull on a message board... if you feel so strongly adverse to others who seek peace first before beginning this unilateral war?!

Ice

 

[compisnada2002]

Allrighty stud, what were the other ways to accomplish that objective?

Quote from iceman1:



guys like you sitting at home all warm and fuzzy while others stand tall on behalf of your hyperbolic patriotic hogwash, sort of makes a lot of us sick! War ain't glamorous bro... and it's not exciting buddy. And you don't necessarily need it to establish oneself as having power if there are other ways to accomplish that objective.

Bravado like yours' makes me p***!

Why don't you grab a weapon and stand watch rather than shoot the bull on a message board... if you feel so strongly adverse to others who seek peace first before beginning this unilateral war?!

Ice

 

[iceman1]

Quote from compisnada2002:

Allrighty stud, what were the other ways to accomplish that objective?

send all the war mongers into battle first...

:eek:

 

[links]

Quote from iceman1:



send all the war mongers into battle first...

:eek:

Yes send in war mongers like our draft dodging President Bush, who during the Vietnam war put his tail between his legs and joined the National guard to avoid being drafted; who this past weekend was relaxing at Camp David, while the our brave soldiers were being gunned down half way around the globe.

Our military is made up largely of minorities and the poor who can't find other jobs. Wake up guys, to borrow a line from the movie Wall Street, the Rich have been doing this to the poor since the time of pharaohs.

 

[stocon]

I examined my attitude and beliefs and was honest. I told you I supported the administration and still do. Would one even consider an undertaking as such without confidence? A belief that it could be done and must be done so we can protect your right to support the troops and stand tall. Pompous ass. Here's the kicker I'm a registered democrat.

Quote from


iceman1:



you should examine that attitude and why you felt so confident in the first place...

many other more sober less "gung ho" people were not as in favor of this whole thing in the first place... and frankly although as a US citizen one should support the troops... that "concern" could turn into a "lesson" for many loud-mouthed, old fart war mongers in Washington. But as per Nam it will be paid for by the blood of others.

That said... I hope we stand tall.

But unlike you I don't give Bush a pass on this one, yet.

 

[iceman1]

Quote from links:



Yes send in war mongers like our draft dodging President Bush, who during the Vietnam war put his tail between his legs and joined the National guard to avoid being drafted; who this past weekend was relaxing at Camp David, while the our brave soldiers were being gunned down half way around the globe.

Our military is made up largely of minorities and the poor who can't find other jobs. Wake up guys, to borrow a line from the movie Wall Street, the Rich have been doing this to the poor since the time of pharaohs.

Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white, and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the Chief"
They point the cannon right at you

It ain't me, it ain't me - I ain't no senator's son
It ain't me, it ain't me - I ain't no fortunate one

Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, don't they help themselves
But when the tax man comes to the door,
Lord the house looks like a rummage sale

It ain't me, it ain't me - I ain't no millionaire's son
It ain't me, it ain't me - I ain't no fortunate one

Some folks inherit star spangled eyes,
Ooh, they send you down to war
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
They only answer "More! More! More!",

It ain't me, it ain't me - I ain't no military son
It ain't me, it ain't me - I ain't no fortunate one

It ain't me, it ain't me - I ain't no fortunate one

 

[ZBEAR]

War making is distinguished from all other enterprises by one irrevocable reality:
the stakes are higher.
War can destroy everything achieved through other human endeavors.
It can take away health, wealth, dignity, and life.
It can assassinate civilization.

Those who have never fought in war,
have no sense of what war is.
The Warrior is the provider of the most precious commodity, security.
He delivers us from the most terrifying evil, the enemy.
Little wonder that free men give their government the authority to force their sons to fight.
To be a warrior means to serve your fellow man.

 

[iceman1]

Let's HOPE its' different this time....!


Gimme an F!

F!
Gimme an I!
I!
Gimme an S!
S!
Gimme an H!
H!
What's that spell ?
FISH!
What's that spell ?

FISH!
What's that spell ?

Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in Vietnam
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.

And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Well, come on generals, let's move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Gotta go out and get those reds —
The only good commie is the one who's dead
And you know that peace can only be won
When we've blown 'em all to kingdom come.

And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Huh!

Well, come on Wall Street, don't move slow,
Why man, this is war au-go-go.
There's plenty good money to be made
By supplying the Army with the tools of the trade,
Just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
They drop it on the Viet Cong.

And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Well, come on mothers throughout the land,
Pack your boys off to Vietnam.
Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
Send 'em off before it's too late.
Be the first one on your block
To have your boy come home in a box.

 

[ZBEAR]

Aggression unchecked is aggression unleashed and knows no bounds.
If weakness allows evil to triumph, then it is evil itself.

............................

I know War - up close and personal.
Some things are worth fighting for.
Some things are worth dying for.

There are always lies and hypocrisy.......on all sides
You must choose which is the lesser evil.....

You can run, but you can't hide.