Wanna be a Quant ?

Quote from syswizard:

Correct, Surf....some operational research MBA's swerve in the direction of Quants, but I dare say nowhere near the level of sophistication. As we discovered, even concepts as simple as Monte Carlo simulation can get incredibly complex when dealing with multidimensional analysis.

yes. dr.giles from oxford was one serious dude! euler discretization, the milstein method, asian barrier and lookback options, quasi monte carlo--- interesting lecture for sure.

best,

surf
 
Quote from ProfLogic:

Most hedge fund people I speak with want thinkers not followers. They tell me the problem they have now is they get MBA's that get frustrated at maze problems. Of course I can only imagine those Quant classes aren't much better equipped to teach anyone problem solving techniques.


No offense to you or any MBA, but generally speaking if you ask any quant or PhD he will attest that an MBA is just a series of power points – nothing quantitative about it. Ask an MBA to derive the Black-Scholes, Vasicek, or CIR model. They probably won’t even know what the latter two are!
Carnegie offers great quant and MBA programs. Compare and contrast for yourself:

MBA:
http://www.tepper.cmu.edu/mba/mba-programs-coursework/fulltime-mba/course-sequence/index.aspx

MSCF:
http://www.tepper.cmu.edu/master-in...ram/curriculum/course-descriptions/index.aspx
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

you are out of your mind and league with these kind of statements.

MBA's have absolutely nothing to do with quant finance. your equating the two clearly demonstrates my first statement.

i can only imagine the hedge funds lining up to have you solve their problems.

regards,

surfer

I didn't say they did. What are you smoking?

You really need to stop stalking me. I'm happily attached and not gay.
 
Quote from annaland:

No offense to you or any MBA, but generally speaking if you ask any quant or PhD he will attest that an MBA is just a series of power points – nothing quantitative about it. Ask an MBA to derive the Black-Scholes, Vasicek, or CIR model. They probably won’t even know what the latter two are!
Carnegie offers great quant and MBA programs. Compare and contrast for yourself:

MBA:
http://www.tepper.cmu.edu/mba/mba-programs-coursework/fulltime-mba/course-sequence/index.aspx

MSCF:
http://www.tepper.cmu.edu/master-in...ram/curriculum/course-descriptions/index.aspx

I was agreeing with you in the last post but smurf has a hard-on for anything I say. He really needs to relax more and start hitting on girls again.
 
Quote from ProfLogic:

I was agreeing with you in the last post but smurf has a hard-on for anything I say. He really needs to relax more and start hitting on girls again.

I still don't see what MBAs have to do with quants. More importantly, why would a HF hire an MBA for a quant position and even expect them to solve maze-type problems?

PS. surf is not a homosexicle and he better not be hitting on any girls. :)
 
The vast majority of quant analysis isn't impacting the bottom line in a signifcantly positive manner. Maybe because knowing how to build a race car isn't the same as knowing how to drive one?
 
Quote from annaland:

I still don't see what MBAs have to do with quants. More importantly, why would a HF hire an MBA for a quant position and even expect them to solve maze-type problems?

PS. surf is not a homosexicle and he better not be hitting on any girls. :)

MBA's apply for all kinds of positions . . . including quants. I was agreeing with you and syswiz that one has nothing to do with the other. The hedge fund owners I've spoken to think MBA's are worthless as quants.

As far as smurf being straight, well . . . we only have your word on that and I'm not going to ask for proof. I just wish he'd stop stalking me. It's embarrassing.
 
Quote from syswizard:

Well, I'll tell you one thing: I met Wilmott in person and I must say the guy is pretty much into himself and pretty arrogant to boot. I introduced myself to him and told him I would like to be able to join his online forum. He said I couldn't because I didn't have a corporate or university domain name in my email address. Here, he lets all of these faceless people join the forum, and won't let me in, even after I told him "this is where I live", "this is where I work", "here's where you can contact me". He wouldn't make an exception to his "policy". Oh, the policy is in-force because he wants the ability to go after someone legally in cases of defamity, etc.


im surprised dr.wilmott gave you such a hard time. he is quite the salesman as well as high level thinker. not too bright, on his part, to exclude someone who shows genuine interest in person.

he struck me as very warm and personable during my brief chat.

regards,

surf
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

<b>They tell me the problem they have now is they get MBA's that get frustrated at maze problems. </b>

you were not agreeing at all, stop twisting the facts and just admit you don't know of what you speak in this matter

hedge fund owner, making up stuff again???? there is no such thing as a "hedge fund owner". your ignorance is almost as embarrasing as your self reported "perfect track record".

MBA's who apply for quant positions are similar to plumbers applying for surgical residencies.

your imaginary "hedge fund owner" (LMAO) friends who take the time to interview MBA's for quant positions are clearly in no position to pass judgment. i shudder to think about their ability in the market if they can't discern a resume'.

surf

As soon as you get back on your medication the world will be a better place.

Random quotes:

Richard Breeden, Hedge Fund Owner
A year ago, Richard C. Breeden, former SEC chair and former court-appointed monitor for Worldcom, started his own hedge fund. How's he doing? Pretty well, according to the Washington Post. . . . (SOURCE) http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/securities/2007/06/richard_breeden.html

Breeden calls himself this and is considered one of the most brilliant corporate attorneys in the US.

NASSIM TALEB, Hedge Fund Owner: The difference between hedge funds and mutual funds is that mutual funds take your money, and they have a lot of constraints on what they can do for you, OK? A hedge fund has usually more freedom to invest, to make bets, to take gambles, to do whatever you want. (SOURCE)
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec06/hedgefunds_10-23.html

Taleb also calls himself that in a Times interview.

AnyBorowitz - "The Key to Happiness" - As a hedge fund owner, I am truly, insanely happy, from the moment I wake up to the moment my head hits my 1200 thread-count pillow in an absinthe-drenched haze. And as for the other things I wanted to do before I die, I pay other people to do them for me now. (SOURCE) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/the-key-to-happiness_b_57611.html

This was a quote.

I could list a few hundred more references to "Hedge Fund Owners" but I think you get the point. There is even a reference to one of smurf's idols in there just for giggles. Each and every time you open your mouth smurf I will cram your lies straight back down them. You are an ignorant little man on some kind of ego trip and I have great sympathy for you but will not tolerate your constant lying.
 
I saved the last post for future reference as well. Sorry I got it before you deleted it.

No such thing as a Hedge Fund Owner . . . what a crock.

Your credibility diminishes further with each post.
 
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