VRX - time to buy ?

One thing is for sure, VRX is a bad short. Debt and non-GAAP metrics such as "cash EPS" are things that other stocks in the industry also have but they are at a much bigger valuations. If shorts are right on VRX, they make 100% but if they are wrong, they lose 100-300%.
One thing is for sure, VRX is a bad short.

just because there are might be other firms with worst metrics doesn't make VRX a
bad short.
 
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Debt-Schmedt.....Doesn't matter. I think Uber is about 30 billion in debt and they're going IPO soon.
Debt is cheap.
can you supply a link for 30 billion in debt for uber.
to say 30 billion in debt doesn't matter is prima facie ridiculous. debt is maybe relatively cheap today. the debt has to be serviced and any rollover of the debt might require much higher interest payments.

where are the earnings and debt payments going to come from?
use of words like "debt-schmedt' means you have not done an in-depth analysis of the co.
 
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Debt-Schmedt.....Doesn't matter. I think Uber is about 30 billion in debt and they're going IPO soon.
Debt is cheap.
Uber isn't in debt. Equity != debt.
One thing is for sure, VRX is a bad short. Debt and non-GAAP metrics such as "cash EPS" are things that other stocks in the industry also have but they are at a much bigger valuations. If shorts are right on VRX, they make 100% but if they are wrong, they lose 100-300%.
100% gain vs 100 -300% loss outcomes that you describe don't necessarily make VRX a bad short. After all, let's not forget that you need to apply probabilities to those outcomes.
 
Uber isn't in debt. Equity != debt.

100% gain vs 100 -300% loss outcomes that you describe don't necessarily make VRX a bad short. After all, let's not forget that you need to apply probabilities to those outcomes.
yes but the consequences of being wrong are disastrous, which is not the case in other stocks in the sector
 
yes but the consequences of being wrong are disastrous, which is not the case in other stocks in the sector
Why would you say that? In theory, any stock, in the same sector or otherwise, can double, triple or quadruple in price for whatever reason, no? Why is VRX special?
 
Why would you say that? In theory, any stock, in the same sector or otherwise, can double, triple or quadruple in price for whatever reason, no? Why is VRX special?
because if the bulls are right, its trading at 3x earnings. that is not the case in any stock without a massive rise in revenues
 
because if the bulls are right, its trading at 3x earnings. that is not the case in any stock without a massive rise in revenues
Right, so we go back to what I said earlier, don't we? Specifically, it's not just the outcomes that matter, but also their probabilities. Assuming 50:50, which is what you're implicitly doing, is pretty arbitrary.
 
Right, so we go back to what I said earlier, don't we? Specifically, it's not just the outcomes that matter, but also their probabilities. Assuming 50:50, which is what you're implicitly doing, is pretty arbitrary.
The asymetry makes it necessary to be right a lot more often than a normal situation
 
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