Volume analysis is to be discarded as it is "too much information"

Volume analysis of any use?

  • I believe in using volume analysis

    Votes: 162 58.5%
  • I discard volume analysis in my trading

    Votes: 71 25.6%
  • I really don't know

    Votes: 43 15.5%

  • Total voters
    277
Quote from Xspurt:

Without volume you can't hear the market talk.

Would you buy a TV without a volume control, a car without a gas pedal or a greyhound with no hind legs?

There's a thread with a photo of zillions of shiny cars and no buyers. The PA sales tag on the car lots is still strong but volume is talking...

When a greyhound has loads of punters backing it the price contracts even though nothing has changed about the dog or its opposition. The only thing that changed was the volume.

That's why it's hard to get correct daily volume: they know the insiders are exposed by volume so they put the wrong days volume beneath the daily bar. Intraday is okay.

So next time you are in line for a Big Mac, remember it's the volume of sales that drives the price. If the place gets empty the share price will fall.

In gambling it's called the weight of money and it's monitored in realtime because just like the stock market, volume tells you who knows what and what is going to happen.

The mug punters only look at the price :)



Xspurt,

That's quite a good way of explaining the whole issue, but unfortunately you are wasting your time and effort. Let me explain.

Someone who posted on this thread earlier today may not agree with the use of volume. They are not going to read you and all of a sudden change thier mind, come back on here, and repent.

That's just not how the markets and humans work.

See, people don't like being wrong, they hold on to losing trades until all thier money has gone etc etc. They hold on to losing ideas, methods, strats and systems etc etc....until all thier money has gone. Very stubborn indeed us people, to our detrement.



Yours,



Dackster.
 
Quote from TraderZones:

Quote from Xspurt:

But no, it's not just a tool, any old tool. This is the one that the exchanges and MM's don't want us to have.

You only have mental problems if you actually believe what you said.

EXCHANGES don't want people to have it? Exchanges have ZERO interest in what traders use. They only care if instruments get traded. And since when do MM have any capability to prevent people from learning about volume? Large numbers of books and advisors and forums and websites keep pushing this worthless thing called "volume analysis." And depth of market provides decent a picture of current volume to all via their brokers.


Getting correct daily volume is an art because of deliberate attempts to fool us. The MM's and exchanges don't think it's just another tool or they wouldn't go to such lengths to disguise or hide what is happening.

This only makes sense to conspiracy theorists and the mentally ill. Volume is worthless, and every time people challenge the believers to prove it (like Jack Hershey), they become much more evasive than the "exchanges and MMs" you so claim

ignore
 
Quote from SwineFlu:

Oh,Those that find no value in it have not studied it long enough to figure out its meaning.

At last someone has studied something long enough to offer an informed opinion.

Can you please explain exactly what is the meaning of volume since you understand it

sosueme
 
Quote from Xspurt:



Getting correct daily volume is an art because of deliberate attempts to fool us.

Dark Pools exist because volume talks but it takes time and effort to learn the lingo.

Can you please explain just how to get accurate daily volume and can you explain the exact lingo so that we all may learn.

sosueme
 
Quote from SwineFlu:

ignore

LOL

Someone who doesn't know what a MM display shows and thinks the Exchange gives out daily volume coz they don't take sides.

TZ, do you think a MM will take personal responsibility for the liquidity of a stock and risk his ass with the same information you look at?

Think he just looks at price and reads bars??

Why does the exchange fudge the daily volume?

Knock yourself out if you think that is a conspiracy :)
 
Quote from sosueme:

Can you please explain just how to get accurate daily volume and can you explain the exact lingo so that we all may learn.

sosueme

The lingo that I use is not my invention and I have referenced it if you want to follow it up. I said it takes 2 years to learn so it's pointless to ask me to explain.

When you show that you are serious about learning I will show you how to get accurate daily volume.
 
Quote from sosueme:

At last someone has studied something long enough to offer an informed opinion.

Can you please explain exactly what is the meaning of volume since you understand it

sosueme

Price and volume can not exist in a market alone.

In order for price to exist after a market is established, a single contract or share needs to be traded to establish the next price point . . . and so on and so on till that particular market ceases to exist.

In order for volume to exist after a market is established, price needs offered to be established for that contract or share so it can be traded. . . and so on and so on till that particular market ceases to exist.

Price and volume are forever joined on a chart. It's up to you to figure out whether you look at price movement and interpret volume or look at volume and interpret price movement or something entirely different.

Real traders are constantly testing and improving on "what works" for them. Real traders do not ignore anything.
 
Quote from SwineFlu:

Price and volume can not exist in a market alone.

In order for price to exist after a market is established, a single contract or share needs to be traded to establish the next price point . . . and so on and so on till that particular market ceases to exist.

In order for volume to exist after a market is established, price needs offered to be established for that contract or share so it can be traded. . . and so on and so on till that particular market ceases to exist.

Price and volume are forever joined on a chart. It's up to you to figure out whether you look at price movement and interpret volume or look at volume and interpret price movement or something entirely different.

Real traders are constantly testing and improving on "what works" for them. Real traders do not ignore anything.
Hey, that's a great explanation swineflu aka ProfLogic.

Thanks for being such a complete tool and totally outting yourself while using your multiple alias. :p :D
 
Quote from MandelbrotSet:

Hey, that's a great explanation swineflu aka ProfLogic.

Thanks for being such a complete tool and totally outting yourself while using your multiple alias. :p :D

I use equi-volume charts. from what I read proflogic uses constant volume bars. Do you understand the difference?
 
Quote from Xspurt:

The lingo that I use is not my invention and I have referenced it if you want to follow it up. I said it takes 2 years to learn so it's pointless to ask me to explain.

When you show that you are serious about learning I will show you how to get accurate daily volume.

I'm serious about learning. Please show me how to get accurate daily volume.

Thanks.

JW
 
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