Vixy reaching new lows, time to buy?

What??? The last move from low 20s to almost 40 that took place just a month ago WAS the smallest of market pull backs and vixy moved nearly 100%

The amount of fear that could enter this market after just a single 5% drop would have most in awe. This market is literally 999999% complacent at the moment with zero thoughts of a pullback so even the smallest of market sell offs will spike the vix and move VIXY by a vast amount.

Peak was 12800 ( ie 5 digits) @ Oct 2011.
Now it is just 2 digits.
 
Great points.. I'm looking for VIX to reverse back up soon. Curious, why not trade UVXY?
Or better yet just invest in VIX futures directly. Unless you're really wedded to the equal tenor exposure of the ETFs they don't appear to have any benefits over directly investing in the two underlying securities they each invest in.
 
Peak was 12800 ( ie 5 digits) @ Oct 2011.
Now it is just 2 digits.

Remember it's the percentage increases/decreases on swings that count for traders (including daytraders) since you will rescale the position based on the most recent price. In terms of percentages the VIX complex is as volatile as it ever was (actually vol of vol has been going higher the last year AFAIK, though I haven't bothered personally checking as I didn't trade vol by ETF since 2017).

I wouldn't go long VIXY, UVXY, etc. in a discretionary trade even with a gun pointed to my head though. Short equity index is much more straightforward, you need really specialist knowledge to do well long volatility (or do some really short term holds).
 
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Today's VIX is not the same as the 2011 VIX. CBOE changed calculation twice (2003, and 2014) since its origin.

But exactly how does someone trade VIX spot? I've never heard of a way.
 
Today's VIX is not the same as the 2011 VIX. CBOE changed calculation twice (2003, and 2014) since its origin.

But exactly how does someone trade VIX spot? I've never heard of a way.
You can't trade VIX spot. You can directly trade VIX futures and FOPs though. The VIX ETFs consist of the nearest two months of VIX futures, they just roll out of the near to the far every day to maintain an equal duration exposure.
 
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