Vitamin D, Magnesium & Omega 3

Interesting story, and I'm glad your AFib is under control. Are you still taking 7,000 IU a day and, if so, do you plan on maintaining this level indefinitely?

Thank you, Fred.

I am, and I'm not sure yet. If I continue to see a rise in the readings (I'm taking blood every two months now specifically to check this) then I might back off. Between 40 and 60 is where I need to be and if I can maintain that level, I might ease off a bit. Being in Florida I have ample time to get sunlight - though as a pasty white guy I cook more than I'd like so there's that whole other risk of cancer I'd rather avoid. But if I can get 20-30 min of good sun I might back it off further. I'll try to remember to update this as it progesses.
 
As it stands now, does your doctor regard the vitamin D mega-dosing as a viable long-term solution or treatment for your condition?

Its interesting you ask that. The doctor I see is supposedly one of the best Electrophysiologists (which is a cardiologist that specializes in the rhythm of the heart in case you didn't know - I didn't) in the Southeast, and she was following me really closely on the Vit D because she said she had read articles on it - particularly on vagal paroxysmal afib - and the effects. So I'm keeping her up to date with it and she says she might use it as a case in research and for future treatment. Great, so long as I keep out of afib!
 
Okay, I was just wondering if she had any concerns about long-term mega-dosing.

She didn't say anything specifically about that.

Once I hit the 50-60 level, I will back it off down to about 1500IU a day and do a test in 4-6 months to ensure my levels remain the same. If they do, I'll back it off further to just about the RDA (which is 600-800). I don't plan on keeping this level for that long beyond that.

Of course, any return to issues with the heart will see me adjust that plan. But as long as levels stay somewhere near where they are, I don't expect that will happen - assuming it was the cause of the "cure" in the first place and something else isn't driving it. Causation/correlation and all that.

The big risk from high levels of Vit D is calcium absorption. Vit D aids in the absorption of calcium and as you raise the level of Vit D, you simply absorb more of the calcium you take. So if you don't adjust, you get too much calcium absorption. The body then takes this calcium and sends it to the heart (arteries) and the kidneys where you don't want it. So you need to add Vit K2-7, which is a specific supplement that redirects this calcium more efficiently to bones and teeth, where you do want it.

Happy to talk more about that, but read up on Calcium and K2-7. its fascinating.
 
She didn't say anything specifically about that.

Once I hit the 50-60 level, I will back it off down to about 1500IU a day and do a test in 4-6 months to ensure my levels remain the same. If they do, I'll back it off further to just about the RDA (which is 600-800). I don't plan on keeping this level for that long beyond that.

Of course, any return to issues with the heart will see me adjust that plan. But as long as levels stay somewhere near where they are, I don't expect that will happen - assuming it was the cause of the "cure" in the first place and something else isn't driving it. Causation/correlation and all that.

The big risk from high levels of Vit D is calcium absorption. Vit D aids in the absorption of calcium and as you raise the level of Vit D, you simply absorb more of the calcium you take. So if you don't adjust, you get too much calcium absorption. The body then takes this calcium and sends it to the heart (arteries) and the kidneys where you don't want it. So you need to add Vit K2-7, which is a specific supplement that redirects this calcium more efficiently to bones and teeth, where you do want it.

Happy to talk more about that, but read up on Calcium and K2-7. its fascinating.
I take a daily multivitamin that includes 800 IU of vitamin D, and have recently been adding 1,000 IU 3 times a week. I don't know if I should be doing the additional 3x/wk.

The only think I recall about vitamin K (I'm not that informed, and never heard of K2-7 until now), is that it also promotes blood clotting, which gives me a bit of pause. Life is such a balancing act, eh? This stuff is all above my pay grade.

Eyes wide open, and good luck.
 
I take a daily multivitamin that includes 800 IU of vitamin D, and have recently been adding 1,000 IU 3 times a week. I don't know if I should be doing the additional 3x/wk.

The only think I recall about vitamin K (I'm not that informed, and never heard of K2-7 until now), is that it also promotes blood clotting, which gives me a bit of pause. Life is such a balancing act, eh? This stuff is all above my pay grade.

Eyes wide open, and good luck.

K actually does not trigger clotting, just ensures that the clotting mechanism in the blood performs properly. But yeah, its a chemistry set.
 
I don't know about disease prevention but I can share a little story (if you care to read it) on Vit D.

About 6 years ago I developed paroxysmal Atrial Fibrillation (Afib). For those unaware of what this is, essentially the atrial part of the heart decides to run off on a different and erratic beat while the rest of the heart beats essentially normally. Not knowing anything about this prior to experiencing it, I - of course - freaked out and went to the ER. They did every test under the sun with me and couldn't figure out what caused it. Total scan of the heart showed no abnormalities. Ultrasound showed nothing. Cholesterol, BP, all normal. Blood work just fine (they tested for the potassium, MG, etc...all the electrolytes). I converted back to a normal beat all on my own 10 hours later while simply lying down. They sent me on my way with a pamphlet of understanding AFIB. I now had a Cardiologist. Welcome to middle age.

Over the course of the next few years, my afib came and went - every 9-12 months or so. No real understanding as to why it occurred. I started to journal and do more research and realized it was something called "Vagal" Afib (the Vagus Nerve caused it) and usually occurred when I changed position (lying down to standing up, standing up to crouching down, etc). The end of last year I was having Afib every month and even when I wasn't in afib, I had skipped beats (ectopics) regularly. The condition was clearly getting worse. The cardiologist recommended an ablation, where they go in and scar the heart to stop the cells causing the irregular beat. I dunno, but that sounded really scary.

To make an overly long story a bit shorter, someone on an afib forum reached out to me and asked me if I had ever taken my Vit D level. I couldn't remember. I went back to my blood work to look at it from past years. The last few years numbers were 24, 23, and then 19. If you know anything about Vit D levels, 19 is a really bad print.

He suggested I start taking a good dosage each day (I take 7000 IU a day). Tested myself monthly. After one month, my number went back up to 24, which I thought was not a very large jump - the guy explained that Vit D levels move sloooowwwwly. Was discouraged when I went into Afib a month later, but at 24, he said I shouldn't be surprised. That's still really low. Fast forward a few months and my missed/skipped beats started to vanish. The heart became very quiet. Tested myself, got into the high 30s. Last test was a month ago and I have a 45. Haven't had Afib in half a year, and no skipped beats since then. Still on the Vit D regimen.

If you think about it, 40-50 years ago, people spent half their lives in the sun. Now we spend most of our lives indoors. We get hardly any Vit D.

I don't know if this is the solution for infections but it sure seems to be the solution for my heart. Tune in next time when Tsing Tao talks about how Calcium has to be monitored with lots of Vit D....

I have had my vitamin d level tested several times simply because I have lived in northern climes where you gotta wonder where you are at in the middle of the winter in regard to d-levels.

To be expected it was very low, can't remember the first test but low- 21 ng's I think, and consistent with your experience I had to work my arse off to get it up to 45-50 which is the top part of the 25 hydroxy test range. I was taking 15,000 units a day. Took me about three months. I didnt worry much about the high level because I was getting tests to monitor. The usual scare literature will say that if you are taking more than 700 units or so a day you are going to die. Don't count on it. It's bitch to build up in your blood and anything less than 150ng is not considered toxic and maybe some people could get up there but it would not be me. People get confused about vitamin d toxicity. Yes, it is highly toxic if you are a kid and think it is candy and a whole bottle of 5000 unit tablets at once because it overwhelms your liver but that is a different scenario.

As far as monitoring calcium, lots of people think that taking lots of vitamin d automatically leads to critically high levels of calcium. No it doesn't. It could but it is not the intake of vitamin d that increases the calcium, it is the increase in the blood serum level of vitamin d that does or could increase calcium. If you are taking lots of d but it is only causing your serum levels to come into a normal range then you are in a normal range of vitamin d. Vitamin D is actually not a vitamin - it is a hormone. One of its major jobs it to help absorb and move calcium around as needed. For most people having vitamin d raise their calcium level is a good thing. But,yeh why not measure along with everything else. Not to get to far into the weeds but Vitamin K is vitamin that calcium going where it should go rather than calcifying your arteries. Google more if needed.

Also, and I am sure you know this but just while we are here, I will add in that I hope you or anyone is taking Vitamin D3 rather than DL. a/k/a D2 but it will usually say DL on labels. They are both widely available and cheaper form is DL/D2. Don't do that. The absorption rate is much less than D3.
 
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