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Visual Basic
- Thread starter Excelsior
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Quote from jprad:
That doesn't change the fact that VB6 is closed-source, single-platform, and no longer supported.
Bugs that still exist in VB6 will exist forever and it will never be extended with new features or get an updated IDE.
It's fine for maintenance purposes, but it's a non-starter for the basis of a new project.
If you can find a bug in VB6, then yes, it will never be fixed. And you're right in that it won't support new features. However, I've seen the update cycles for Microsoft software and having a fully patched compiler is a huge benefit compared to the poor quality of development tools they cycle through on an annual basis.
That's not to say that bugs can't be introduced, such as compiled code running under Win 7.
If it's something reasonably simple that needs to be thrown together, VB6 isn't a bad choice at all, or if there's a feature that it has that other platforms don't support properly yet, then it's a good choice.
If starting a complex project from scratch, though, then Java under a Linux flavor might be a good choice.
Have him do the trading system portion in something a bit more "mainstream" such as C++, C#, Java and let him code the GUI in whatever his little heart desires.
In this case, if you get sick of your VB platform, you can always migrate over to another one since the strategy code is independent of the front end and it will be a matter of implementing some glue code rather than a complete rewrite.
In this case, if you get sick of your VB platform, you can always migrate over to another one since the strategy code is independent of the front end and it will be a matter of implementing some glue code rather than a complete rewrite.
Easy to see that you don't trust your programmer (even with the most basic decisions).Quote from Excelsior:
I don't want to spend money on getting this up and going and then find out I should have went with a different language.
In this case it will be unavoidable getting disappointed in the long run.
Quote from crm99:
Gawd, anyone using VB in 2010 sucks. I mean, do you want to trust your project to someone that doesn't have the brain power to use c# or java?
VB.net and C# compile to the same MSIL code.
In fact, in VS 2010, the line separating VB.net and C# has become more blurred as they have taken on similar properties of each other's language.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/scottwil/archive/2010/03/09/vb-and-c-coevolution.aspx
Your comment is ignorant, and that's being generous.
Quote from Excelsior:
I am in the process of getting some of my strategies automated. The programmer that I am talking to wants to use Visual Basic. I am not a programmer so I am curious if this language is a good language to use for trading. I don't want to spend money on getting this up and going and then find out I should have went with a different language.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
what aspect of vb will you use to execute your trading strategy?
will you be creating a sql database or access and if so, will you generate new data on a daily basis and/or update this database i.e. once a week?
i think if you are considering spending the bucks and resources, there are better languages to use to create your computerized strategy, i.e. c# and java to name a few.
Quote from cstfx:
VB.net and C# compile to the same MSIL code.
In fact, in VS 2010, the line separating VB.net and C# has become more blurred as they have taken on similar properties of each other's language.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/scottwil/archive/2010/03/09/vb-and-c-coevolution.aspx
Your comment is ignorant, and that's being generous.
He was referring to Visual Basic! not .Net
@crm99
"Gawd, anyone using VB in 2010 sucks. I mean, do you want to trust your project to someone that doesn't have the brain power to use c# or java?"
Yea Right!
I have programmed in every major language, since the development of COBOL & Fortran (over a 2 million lines of debugged & deployed code) - I don't use Java however - not for me!
Visual Basic is a good language, easy to learn and powerful - C' is better but far more cryptic.
I currently use Visual Studio - it is an excellent development tool allowing you to mix and match different languages including Visual Basic, C++, C', J Script, Assembly (Assembly -> god forbid you should go this low - but when you got to go - you got to go!)
Just completed my own trading application at about 150k lines - does everything the Ninja Trader and others do and its a lot faster - You guessed it - it was written in Visual Basic.
Hope this helps.
"Gawd, anyone using VB in 2010 sucks. I mean, do you want to trust your project to someone that doesn't have the brain power to use c# or java?"
Yea Right!
I have programmed in every major language, since the development of COBOL & Fortran (over a 2 million lines of debugged & deployed code) - I don't use Java however - not for me!
Visual Basic is a good language, easy to learn and powerful - C' is better but far more cryptic.
I currently use Visual Studio - it is an excellent development tool allowing you to mix and match different languages including Visual Basic, C++, C', J Script, Assembly (Assembly -> god forbid you should go this low - but when you got to go - you got to go!)
Just completed my own trading application at about 150k lines - does everything the Ninja Trader and others do and its a lot faster - You guessed it - it was written in Visual Basic.
Hope this helps.
Quote from gustavokeiff:
@crm99
"Gawd, anyone using VB in 2010 sucks. I mean, do you want to trust your project to someone that doesn't have the brain power to use c# or java?"
Yea Right!
I have programmed in every major language, since the development of COBOL & Fortran (over a 2 million lines of debugged & deployed code) - I don't use Java however - not for me!
Visual Basic is a good language, easy to learn and powerful - C' is better but far more cryptic.
I currently use Visual Studio - it is an excellent development tool allowing you to mix and match different languages including Visual Basic, C++, C', J Script, Assembly (Assembly -> god forbid you should go this low - but when you got to go - you got to go!)
Just completed my own trading application at about 150k lines - does everything the Ninja Trader and others do and its a lot faster - You guessed it - it was written in Visual Basic.
Hope this helps.
How did you the handle the threading?
If your using Visual Studio, then select Help, to Open there help tool. Search for threading and look at the various examples.
Get the book Visual Basic .NET - Programmers Cookbook - excellent examples on threading.
If your working with multiple forms and trying to display information from multiple threads - good luck!
I had to use thread(s) to deposit the values in various datasets common to my main (from which the forms were generated) and then use a timer on the form to display the results from the dataset.
In short, your threads need to be data-safe - writing their info to a common data set and other threads read the data set.
Get the book Visual Basic .NET - Programmers Cookbook - excellent examples on threading.
If your working with multiple forms and trying to display information from multiple threads - good luck!
I had to use thread(s) to deposit the values in various datasets common to my main (from which the forms were generated) and then use a timer on the form to display the results from the dataset.
In short, your threads need to be data-safe - writing their info to a common data set and other threads read the data set.