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Violent Crime Rising Sharply in Some Cities
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Abu Ghraib in America : Video Shows Youth's Beating at Boot Camp In Fla. Before He Died
A videotape shows guards brutally beating a teenager at a military-style boot camp for juvenile delinquents not long before he died, two lawmakers said Thursday.
Florida officials will not release the tape to the public.
Martin Lee Anderson, 14, of Panama City, Fla., died Jan. 6 after he complained of breathing problems and collapsed while doing exercises that were part of intake procedures at the camp in the Florida Panhandle's Bay County.
Sheriff's investigators said officers restrained the youth after he became uncooperative.
State Rep. Gustavo A. Barreiro (R) called the videotape "horrific," saying he had "never seen any kid being brutalized . . . the way I saw this young man being brutalized."
Barreiro added: "Even towards the end of the videotape, where you could just see there was pretty much nothing left of Martin, they came out with a couple cups of water and splashed him in the face. When you see stuff like that, you want to go through the TV and say, 'Enough is enough. Please stop hitting this kid.' "
Martin's relatives say they plan to sue Bay County and the state Department of Juvenile Justice, which oversees boot-camp programs.
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The Culture of Life.
A videotape shows guards brutally beating a teenager at a military-style boot camp for juvenile delinquents not long before he died, two lawmakers said Thursday.
Florida officials will not release the tape to the public.
Martin Lee Anderson, 14, of Panama City, Fla., died Jan. 6 after he complained of breathing problems and collapsed while doing exercises that were part of intake procedures at the camp in the Florida Panhandle's Bay County.
Sheriff's investigators said officers restrained the youth after he became uncooperative.
State Rep. Gustavo A. Barreiro (R) called the videotape "horrific," saying he had "never seen any kid being brutalized . . . the way I saw this young man being brutalized."
Barreiro added: "Even towards the end of the videotape, where you could just see there was pretty much nothing left of Martin, they came out with a couple cups of water and splashed him in the face. When you see stuff like that, you want to go through the TV and say, 'Enough is enough. Please stop hitting this kid.' "
Martin's relatives say they plan to sue Bay County and the state Department of Juvenile Justice, which oversees boot-camp programs.
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The Culture of Life.
Quote from Pabst:
There's millions of Mexicans who were born in America over the past two decades. Why are those teenagers, the sons of domestics, gardeners, janitors and factory workers not committing equal numbers of crimes as blacks? Clearly the reasons have more to do with family structure then George Bush.
Over the past three decades violent crime rates have tumbled while economic disparities have widened. This is called no-correlation. I've lived 4 decades within 70 miles of Milwaukee. Wisconsin attracted many Chicago blacks because of liberal welfare requirements, a plethora of low skill jobs and a downright cheap cost of living. Wisconsin boasts, for it's small size, the most extensive state university system in the nation. On top of it Milwaukee even has a successful school voucher system. Yet crime rates among blacks sizzle, directly counter to national trends. Wisconsin is every bit a "peoples republic" as is California. So once again, WTF does GWB have to do with the spike in Milwaukee crime?
How does California, a "peoples republic" as you say, have a Republican governor?
Quote from Pabst:
Well, Latino's who emigrate to the States are 4x more likely to commit a violent crime than whites. The FBI's data contains no breakdowns of African or Caribbean immigrants.
As anyone who has vacationed or lived in Jamaica, the VI or the Bahamas will tell you, the preponderance of black crime is hardly an American phenomena.
What about the Latino immigrants who are so light that they resemble "whites", are they also 4x more likely, or does it drop to like, 1.5x as likely? You know, in proportion to the amount of "white" skin they have...
Quote from Pabst:
I believe I was thinking of shooting deaths having spiked in London a couple of years back.
I'd guess petty property crime is under reported in the States.
Fair enough, gun crime is probably higher.
And I seriously doubt that London street robberies went up by that much. I have lived here for more than 10 years, and have not really felt it. I would say the crime reporting system changed about 20 times in the last few years.
Quote from reid5525:
How does California, a "peoples republic" as you say, have a Republican governor?
The Republican governor of California was elected for three distinct reasons.
a.) He's one of the most recognized figures in America.
b.) He's not particularly conservative.
c.) His election was uniquely packaged along with the recall vote of an unpopular, ineffectual, charisma challenged incumbent.
Arnold's struggle in approval polls is much more telling than his fluke election.
Despite national GOP majorities in both houses of Congress, California has two liberal Democrat U.S. Senators.
California's House delegation is 33-20 Democrat.
The State Senate that convenes in Sacramento is 25-15 Democrat.
The State Assembly Membership is led by Democrat's 48-32.
California has one of the highest state income taxes in the nation.
Granted the political/ideological leanings of California are geographically distinct. SoCal is still quite conservative. Bush carried San Diego county and GOP presidential candidates regularly receive more votes in Orange county than any other county in the U.S. The Bay Area however displays trends not seen anywhere else in the country. As a rule of thumb Democrats smoke Republicans in the cities, the GOP has a distinct edge in suburbia, and Republicans win by tremendous majorities in small town rural America. In SoCal those rules hold true. However up north Kerry carried (no pun intended) all of the Bay Areas affluent suburban counties including Marin, Contra Costa and San Mateo.
As a whole the verdict is clear. California is a peoples republic of nagging, bloated socialism.
BS.
He was elected because at the time people were hating on Davis, and Ahnold came on and gave BS speeches, claiming the people of California were good, that the government was bad, and that he had no ties to special interests.
Since then, Ahnold has failed miserably with his initiatives, gone to special interest corporate groups for money, rehired a democrat which pissed the repubs off.
He has no idea what he is doing.
He has been exposed....
He was elected because at the time people were hating on Davis, and Ahnold came on and gave BS speeches, claiming the people of California were good, that the government was bad, and that he had no ties to special interests.
Since then, Ahnold has failed miserably with his initiatives, gone to special interest corporate groups for money, rehired a democrat which pissed the repubs off.
He has no idea what he is doing.
He has been exposed....
Quote from Pabst:
The Republican governor of California was elected for three distinct reasons.
a.) He's one of the most recognized figures in America.
b.) He's not particularly conservative.
c.) His election was uniquely packaged along with the recall vote of an unpopular, ineffectual, charisma challenged incumbent.
Arnold's struggle in approval polls is much more telling than his fluke election.
Despite national GOP majorities in both houses of Congress, California has two liberal Democrat U.S. Senators.
California's House delegation is 33-20 Democrat.
The State Senate that convenes in Sacramento is 25-15 Democrat.
The State Assembly Membership is led by Democrat's 48-32.
California has one of the highest state income taxes in the nation.
Granted the political/ideological leanings of California are geographically distinct. SoCal is still quite conservative. Bush carried San Diego county and GOP presidential candidates regularly receive more votes in Orange county than any other county in the U.S. The Bay Area however displays trends not seen anywhere else in the country. As a rule of thumb Democrats smoke Republicans in the cities, the GOP has a distinct edge in suburbia, and Republicans win by tremendous majorities in small town rural America. In SoCal those rules hold true. However up north Kerry carried (no pun intended) all of the Bay Areas affluent suburban counties including Marin, Contra Costa and San Mateo.
As a whole the verdict is clear. California is a peoples republic of nagging, bloated socialism.
It's easy to understand why Pabst might be indignant at black crime rates.
Whites have had to endure insufferable attacks against their culture in the name of explaining away black failure.
Blacks hate American history, so American history is ruled racist; its heroes denegrated, its traditions demoted.
Blacks have trouble learning, so schools are dumbed down to "equalize" results.
Blacks kill at eight times the rate of whites, so whites have to compromise their constitution and go without guns.
I'm beyond even caring whether any of this sounds racist. I'll freely admit that it is. That might make it "evil", but surely no less true.
My relationship with my father was poisoned for a long time because of his insistence that he (and others in our family) had to leave Detroit because blacks basically ruined it. I couldn't accept such racist explanations so we often came to grief. Sadly, it seems he was right.
History will come to prove that liberalism has been based on a misreading of human nature as egregious and as tragic as that of Marxism (to the extent they even differ - which I, personally, grant they do).
Whites have had to endure insufferable attacks against their culture in the name of explaining away black failure.
Blacks hate American history, so American history is ruled racist; its heroes denegrated, its traditions demoted.
Blacks have trouble learning, so schools are dumbed down to "equalize" results.
Blacks kill at eight times the rate of whites, so whites have to compromise their constitution and go without guns.
I'm beyond even caring whether any of this sounds racist. I'll freely admit that it is. That might make it "evil", but surely no less true.
My relationship with my father was poisoned for a long time because of his insistence that he (and others in our family) had to leave Detroit because blacks basically ruined it. I couldn't accept such racist explanations so we often came to grief. Sadly, it seems he was right.
History will come to prove that liberalism has been based on a misreading of human nature as egregious and as tragic as that of Marxism (to the extent they even differ - which I, personally, grant they do).