Video: Trader, Paul Tudor Jones

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I do believe you have a point. Upon reflection, I do not specifically recall any mention of Gann in the video, which I had not seem for some time. However, I do recall reference to Elliot. And, in fact, it was RCG Trader who made the Gann attribution to the video early on in this thread. I simply accepted his comment at face, assuming he had seen it more recently and had better recall, and because I automatically associate Elliot, Gann and Fibonacci numbers (as they relate to trading) as coming from the same chamber pot. After that, a couple of other posters repeated the Gann reference.

And so, until someone proves otherwise, by going through the video and noting the time of the alleged Gann reference, I do believe you have set us straight.
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You guys are quite right, he does not mention Gann, nor does he use any of his techniques that are clearly and irrefutably visible to you, as a consequence, you should definitely disregard all references to Gann or to any methods PTJ uses to trade in this thread:)
 
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You guys are quite right, he does not mention Gann, nor does he use any of his techniques that are clearly and irrefutably visible to you, as a consequence, you should definitely disregard all references to Gann or to any methods PTJ uses to trade in this thread:)
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RCG, I can see by your nod/wink remark that you're bursting at the seams with all kinds of secret knowledge, as you "try" to misdirect us in your stage whisper. Even though:
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...No need to worry, I can publish my entire system online, and I have no fear. Most people will not have the mental make-up to follow it, even if they do, when it has losses, they will attempt to alter it, to it's detriment...
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And I thought Porky Pig was a ham actor. :p
 
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RCG, I can see by your nod/wink remark that you're bursting at the seams with all kinds of secret knowledge, as you "try" to misdirect us in your stage whisper. Even though:

And I thought Porky Pig was a ham actor. :p
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I know logic is an issue for you T-Dog, so I simply stated, that if you can't see it, then it isn't there for you. Everything I use is in public domain, but it does require an aptitude to process, and everyone just does not have that.

I was simply conceding the argument, that's all. Gann is quackery, and PTJ does not use it, okay, fine. I am not one to try to change people's perceptions of reality:)
 
Very well. I wish you and your aptitude much happiness and success together. Not to mention those 30%+ days, which are evidently not at all unusual for you.
 
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I know logic is an issue for you T-Dog, so I simply stated, that if you can't see it, then it isn't there for you. Everything I use is in public domain, but it does require an aptitude to process, and everyone just does not have that.

I was simply conceding the argument, that's all. Gann is quackery, and PTJ does not use it, okay, fine. I am not one to try to change people's perceptions of reality:)
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No offense RCG but you sound just like marketsurfer circa 2002. See my interviewS on this site and others ( if it's not been purged). I won't be surprised if within a couple years you will get exactly what I'm talking about.
By the way, Winner take all by Gallacher is a good place to start....
Best wishes,

surf

ps. There was a famous hedge fundee who appeared on FNN or CNBC back in the day with a Gann wheel on the wall behind him..... I read a little too much into this hint.....
 
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Anyhow, in the book published last year, More money than God, there is a chapter about PTJ. It references this documentary and quotes it heavily.

That 14 pages in the book (130-144) by the way reveal way more about PTJ's strategies than the film. So if you are interested in learning more about PTJ and want to know his returns in the mid-80s, check it out. The book is a pretty good introduction about HF history and the major players....
 
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More Money Than God: Hedge Funds and the Making of a New Elite

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Sebastian Mallaby
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It is a really interesting book, with lots of insider stories. I have just finished the chapter on Soros, playing the Asian crises in '97.
In January they sent their experts to see how the economy is doing, because they suspected that a weakness was brewing. They interviewed a high official at the Bank of Thailand and got confirmation that the government couldn't support the baht for too long. Mind you, this is basicly insider info, because you and me don't get an audience with such officials who reveal such opinion.
So they shorted the baht and eventually made 700 million on it. Then although they did see the same situation in South Korea, they completely missed that trade. Later on although Soros had enough info on the Russian situation, he kept staying long of the rubel and lost 800 million, because he wanted to support the young democracy.

So even though correctly predicting 3 big plays, they still ended up in the red including one missed trade...
 
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