what complete utter horseshit.
you have become an embarrassment to your greifer troll friends.
you have run out of brain power and now you resort to lies and fake straw men.
1. No one has ever stated physicists prove God's existence.
You have turned into a complete liar.
2. I just proved to you Hawkings statement is conditioned on the multiverse.
If it were not, you still have the fine tuning problem.
(not to mention I have given you the quotes from this paper dozens of times.)
3. What juvenile shit to propose. Is this some new jury instruction.
Speculator in uno, Speculator in omnibus.
Scientists are allowed to speculate.
Its frauds like you pretend Hawkings speculations are fact which is the problem on this thread.
Quote from stu:
"Physicists Prove God Existence"
You'd think, if you thought at all, just the title alone would raise some serious alarm bells in the -what an obvious utter load of bollocks- department.
I can see you have learned nothing.
I've never said "random chance is what created the universe". It's inevitable consequence. The best you can hope is that you have a very severe form of dyslexia. More likely, you just can't help lying about stuff.
False. My remarks are not out of context or fraudulent and Hawking's statement is not conditioned on the multiverse. However much in denial you are of your own links which state not multiverse, may I suggest you first stop lying. It really won't help you.
That just goes to show how embarrassingly little you understand about what Hawking says or means. The thing that obviously creates your universe is a perpetual sheer willful ignorance about what is being said.
According to what you dreamed up above, it would be "incredibly tuned" ....by gravity. You keep crashing your own silly nonsense. Why?
You've declared what Susskind says is speculation.
So then, by your standard, what he says about fine tuning is also speculation.
So anything he says about god , which of course does not have any science, math, laws of physics to support it , is going to be worse than speculation.
You destroyed your ridiculous assertion with your own false appeal to authority. Do you really like being that unintelligent?
- ".... the universe can and will create itself from nothing.... It is not necessary to invoke God.."
Direct and in straight forward plain English, from what you have declared to be your authority.
Your: "a great minds of science" authority.
Your: "There is nothing wrong with scientific speculation." authority.
Apart from the absurd claims you make, trying to invoke god against your own authority, is never going to make it look like you have the least kind of a clue.