Victor Sperandeo's 123 Trend Change

The correct way to draw a trendline .... is from right (most current data) to left (history). Almost no one does it that way. And although many swings can line up on a line only two points are needed.

Which I learned from Tom DeMark.

BTW missing an "e" in Trader Vic's last name Sperandeo.
We can argue about correct trendlines and which guru teaches them the best all day. That's why hardly anyone on here has real trading success. Unless someone has come up with a systematic way of testing them, it's all just anecdotal experiences and cherry-picked results.
 
If you really want to take a red pill, read Vic's book (co-written with "Alvaro Almeida") called Cra$hmaker: A Federal Affaire: A Novel. Almeida is the pen name of Edwin Vierra, one of the best Constitutional attorneys in modern times. It's a 3 page novel (with a lot of truth) weighing almost 3 pounds, written over 20 years ago. It couldn't be more pertinent now, even if the authors didn't predict CONVID, Obiden, the Great Reset attempt, etc.
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MAY do it;
or reread his Trader Vic Black book cover......................................................
 
Hi guys, I've researching Trader Vic's 123 trend change on daily charts.

Where do you recommend putting the stop loss? Trader vic doesn't mention this in his book.

Would it be 1 tick below/above step 2 of the 123 trend change?

Thanks
Yep, pretty sure that his intent was to use the HL/LH represented by the #2 pivot as your initial stop. (Although I'm not sure that he ever specified using exactly "1 tick" below/above, but assume you were just using that as an example.)

A break of the #2 pivot is the first clear sign that your presumption of a trend change may have been wrong... so it makes sense to get out there, and then reassess, wait for a new potential setup.
 
Yep, pretty sure that his intent was to use the HL/LH represented by the #2 pivot as your initial stop. (Although I'm not sure that he ever specified using exactly "1 tick" below/above, but assume you were just using that as an example.)

A break of the #2 pivot is the first clear sign that your presumption of a trend change may have been wrong... so it makes sense to get out there, and then reassess, wait for a new potential setup.
Are you numbering your pivots like this?
Where's your entry?
sperandeo stops9.jpg
 
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No, I'm referencing how Sperandeo identifies his "123s." Based on his numbering, "1" is the break in the initial trend, "2" is the first HL/LH pivot formed on a test of the preceding low/high, and "3" is the break of the level of the first minor high/low.

So wrt your diagram:
His "1" would be at/near your "1";
His "2" would be your "3" (the HL pivot); and,
His "3" (/entry) where if breaks above the level of your "2."

I believe his stop would go just below your "3."

My apologies if using the term "#2 pivot" was confusing. It wasn't intended to mean "the second pivot."
 
On this chart then the stop zone would go at number ... 2?

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I believe so, yes. But I'm unclear as to why that image is labeled as "123 + 2b," because my understanding was that a "2B" is a special case which applies only when the retest at "2" (in that same diagram) actually breaks above "1." In the "2B setup, an earlier, more aggressive entry (e.g., a basic "sell setup") just off the failed break is allowed (rather than entering only on a break below "3"), and the stop is set above that second high at "2."
 
I believe so, yes. But I'm unclear as to why that image is labeled as "123 + 2b," because my understanding was that a "2B" is a special case which applies only when the retest at "2" (in that same diagram) actually breaks above "1." In the "2B setup, an earlier, more aggressive entry (e.g., a basic "sell setup") just off the failed break is allowed (rather than entering only on a break below "3"), and the stop is set above that second high at "2."
That's an image from a search return on youtube, not directly from the Sperandeo source.
Good to hear your take on this. Anything else you feel like passing along is of interest.
 
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