Verizon’s Strikers Striking To Save Cadillac Health Plans From ObamaCare

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Quote from ChkitOut:

sounds like unions are realizing they dont have a whole lot of leverage


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Verizon Employees to Return to Work .

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About 45,000 Verizon Communications Inc. workers agreed to return to work Tuesday, extending a previous contract for 30 days, after striking to protest deep benefits cuts the telecommunications giant was seeking to offset declining sales in its traditional wireline business.

The old agreement remains in effect for 30 days beginning Tuesday, while negotiators continue to work towards a new resolution, the two sides said.

In a new contract, Verizon wants to freeze pensions, tie pay increases more closely to job performance, make it easier to fire employees for cause and require workers to contribute $100 or more a month toward health-plan premiums.

Verizon or its unions—the Communications Workers of America and Internatinonal Brotherhood of Electrical Workers—could halt negotiations within 30 days if they determine they aren't making progress, provided they give the other side a seven-day notice, said Verizon spokesman Rich Young.

Ouch.

The strike came to nothing despite the hundreds of instances of sabotage they perpetrated against their own company. Verizon should simply have fired them and hired non-union employees. There are tens of thousands of qualified people in the northeast and mid-atlantic regions that would take those positions for reasonable pay and be happy to contribute to their healthcare, unless it is Obamacare of course.

 

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Quote from 377OHMS:

.... tells us that landlines are becoming a thing of the past.

Skype, cell, any/all of the digital voice transmission modes have delays which make conversation difficult. Old fashioned landline does not have that problem unless it's over a very long path...

 

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You can ignore, minimize, and excuse what the big boyz did all you like, but the bottom line is had they not stripped the system clean like a swarm of financial locusts, there would be plenty of cash to pay for the bennies.

Speaking of stripped clean-- If the unions weren't so damn greedy over the past 50 years, there wouldn't be such a backlash against them now.

Fact is, it's IMPOSSIBLE to pay the ridiculously cushy pensions and health care costs that the union thugs manhandled from the government and companies over the last few decades.

Now that the greatest bull run in equities and housing is a distant memory, those cushy deals have to get renegotiated to more realistic standards.

I for one am thrilled that corporations and others (Chris Christie) are finally standing their ground against the unions.

 

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Quote from AK Forty Seven:

I know the truth hurts

Oh it would if someone shoved it up your nose. Of course even then you still would not recognize it.

 

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Quote from Lucrum:

Oh it would if someone shoved it up your nose. Of course even then you still would not recognize it.

He recognizes it, he just doesn't care. The mentality of these union members and apologists is "we deserve our outrageous benefits and don't care if they cause our employer to become insolvent".

I've come to believe that most unions would hold that position right up to the point where they all lose their jobs. Given that real unemployement is probably around 16% you would think that many of these unionized businesses would be pondering strategies that break or rid themselves of the unions.

I think unions had a place in America...about 80 years ago. These days the unions are so corrupt and anti-business that they support benefits that are simply unsustainable. Their willingness to harm the companies they work for are difficult to comprehend.

 

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Quote from 377OHMS:

I've come to believe that most unions would hold that position right up to the point where they all lose their jobs.

and they have

Given that real unemployement is probably around 16% you would think that many of these unionized businesses would be pondering strategies that break or rid themselves of the unions.

Sometimes I think it's like the charge of being a "racist". Typical spineless management is more afraid of being labeled "anti-union" than salvaging their company.

I think unions had a place in America...about 80 years ago. These days the unions are so corrupt and anti-business that they support benefits that are simply unsustainable. Their willingness to harm the companies they work for are difficult to comprehend.

I agree.

 

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and they have Sometimes I think it's like the charge of being a "racist". Typical spineless management is more afraid of being labeled "anti-union" than salvaging their company.

I agree.

Do you clean 377OHMS up after you jerk him off

 

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Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Would you clean me up after I jerk off?

Why would I do that you filthy homo? Clean yourself up.

 

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Quote from Lucrum:

Why would I do that ? After I'm finished I make 377OHOMS clean himself up.

OK

 

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Quote from Lucrum:

Why would I do that you filthy homo? Clean yourself up.

I don't know. A fire hose on him in a gitmo cell would be worth it.