Venezuela Nationalising MORE

Quote from dcraig:

From the Harvard Public Health Review published by the Harvard School of Public Health

"Socio-economic development is typically measured by health indicators such as infant mortality and life expectancy at birth. However, in Cuba, a nation beset by severely limited resources and political tensions both internal and external, these health markers are essentially the same as those in the United States and other parts of the industrialized world. Cuba also boasts the highest rate of public health service in Latin America and has one of the highest physician-to-population ratios in the world. Alone remarkable for a developing country, these feats are even more extraordinary considering the context of a US embargo that's been in effect since 1961."

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/review/review_summer_02/677cuba.html

No books or journals to quote in response doctor? I figured you didn't have a clue as to what you were talking about...never been to Cuba, only read about it in medical journals.

Same goes for you ktcmex, you're a fool too.
 
Quote from maxpi:

Everybody should read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" for sure. The US corporations/govt. is unbelievably agressive towards Latin America and the Middle East. During the Cold War they had an excuse in Latin America but nowadays?

I have just recently read that book. Rather interesting and a good portion of sounds reasonalbe that it could have happenned. What made me doubt the extent of the authros claims was his continuous efforts to pity himself for doing what he did. It makes on wonder how much is really trught (which I am sure some of it is) and how much of it was just embellishment.
 
Quote from Burtakus:

I have just recently read that book. Rather interesting and a good portion of sounds reasonalbe that it could have happenned. What made me doubt the extent of the authros claims was his continuous efforts to pity himself for doing what he did. It makes on wonder how much is really trught (which I am sure some of it is) and how much of it was just embellishment.

Well, yes, I think he did start writing the thing more to help himself work through things and then he decided it needed to be published. Usually books don't make it to the Non-Fiction-Best-Seller-List without some merit. That is all I have to go on regarding veracity of the author, that and the complaints about how the IMF money always screws things up for indigenous people.
 
Quote from eusdaiki:

A friend of mine who visited Cuba a few years ago, he went as a missionary so he was allowed to live with a Cuban family, not in a nice hotel district...

He said that the people in Cuba are feed just enough so that they won't starve to death.

To get clues one could check pictures from Cuba for clues of starvation. Starving people generate growth hormone and over time their noses/ears enlarge. I do not know how long the undernourishment has to go on or the severity of it though. I'm going to start looking at some pictures from Cuba.

I used to listen to Radio Havana [once a radio addict always a radio addict, I have been glued to radios, shortwave, amateur, broadcast band, etc. since I was a little kid]. They were talking about alternate food sources in the 1970-80's. That was about sending people out into the countryside to forage, I am talking about turning rocks over and eating grubs!!

Left wing ideologues absolutely amaze me. After their favored economic systems fail worldwide for 8 decades they still make excuses.

I am embarrassed by my two left wing senators from California. Barbara Boxer's attacks on Condoleeza Rice are like something out of the Ku Klux Klan workbook, she had the lady visibly scared during the confirmation hearings and recently she pulled this out of her leftist ass "you can't appreciate the war because you don't have a family"!! On Larry King recently Senator Feinstein said that were she President she would negotiate peace between the Palestinians and Israelis!! How ignorant of history and full of bullshit can an idiot leftist be??
 
Castro knew that so to get them back he paid the fare value on the company based on the yearly fake low profits. See basically we got mad because Castro fucked us the same way we fucked Cuba. [/B]

Beautiful.
 
Quote from maxpi:

To get clues one could check pictures from Cuba for clues of starvation. Starving people generate growth hormone and over time their noses/ears enlarge. I do not know how long the undernourishment has to go on or the severity of it though. I'm going to start looking at some pictures from Cuba.

I used to listen to Radio Havana [once a radio addict always a radio addict, I have been glued to radios, shortwave, amateur, broadcast band, etc. since I was a little kid]. They were talking about alternate food sources in the 1970-80's. That was about sending people out into the countryside to forage, I am talking about turning rocks over and eating grubs!!

Left wing ideologues absolutely amaze me. After their favored economic systems fail worldwide for 8 decades they still make excuses.

I am embarrassed by my two left wing senators from California. Barbara Boxer's attacks on Condoleeza Rice are like something out of the Ku Klux Klan workbook, she had the lady visibly scared during the confirmation hearings and recently she pulled this out of her leftist ass "you can't appreciate the war because you don't have a family"!! On Larry King recently Senator Feinstein said that were she President she would negotiate peace between the Palestinians and Israelis!! How ignorant of history and full of bullshit can an idiot leftist be??

I'm not sure you could legitimately say that there is a humanitarian crisis in Cuba related to the quality of food the people eat, or even the quantity as it's not as if people are walking around with distended bellies.

But their food consumption is clearly unhealthy and very little. Their rations include beans, rice, coffee, cigarettes, and I think bread. I should have purchased a rations book from a local when I visited as they sell them to tourists who find it a curiosity how little people are given.

If you go into a store there where they have breads, foods(extremely limited and hardly food), etc., you can witness anti-communist propaganda type scenery....literally seeing wrinkled decrepid old women looking at candies and cookies like they are heavenly gates....no joke.

Whatever...go there and see. It's an unfair place for a lot of people...Cuba is surrounded by incredible seas and island nations that capitalize on the ocean beauty and their agricultural capabilities...but instead the country is mostly relegated to idleness and uselessness because they are barely given anything...in the way of economy and food.
 
Lots of ignoramuses in this thread.

You guys have to read up on the history of oil. Eventually ALL oilproducing countries nationalized their oilindustry. ALL the Arab countries. I don't hear you guys bitching about it.

The steps went like this:

80 years ago foreigners mostly American and British/Dutch companies were getting the most of the profits.

The oilproducers realized, that even the mother countries were getting more in taxes than the landowners, who actually had the oil. So they renegotiated the agreements and that was the famous 50/50 deal.

Then later when new companies wanted new concessions, they broke the barrier and they went 30/70 and so on.

Eventually the producers took complete controll and nationalized their oilindustry finishing the process...

Read The Prize.....

What Venezuela is doing is a natural process if you know history. Oh, but you don't....
 
This is why we hate them and their way of life, and seek to destabilize their countries:



Jan. 8, 2007 16:10

A senior Iranian officer warned that if the West continues to threaten Iran's economy over its nuclear program, Teheran will discontinue the flow of oil via the Strait of Hormuz, Israel Radio reported Monday.

According to the officer, 40% of the world's oil is transferred through the strait, and the world is dependent on Iran for a source of energy and a stable economy.

Iran's spiritual leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, added that Iran cannot allow itself to give up the right to develop its nuclear technology program.
 
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