Itâs amazing first a guy said they have no money for unhealthy food then other says they only have pizza and soda. I think you need decent medical if youâre only having pizza and soda. Why canât they have decent healthcare? Nobody is saying there want to fly to Cuba for it but whatâs so bad if that fact is true. I am sure the hospitals are nowhere near top notch and might be a little dirty but that does not mean the doctors canât be very educated and have passion to help people without it being about making a lot of money.
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Venezuela Nationalising MORE
- Thread starter blast19
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I stated that when people can afford food outside of their home it's pizza and soda. Disgusting pizza and soda at that. Definitely not healthy.
They do indeed have tons of doctors who do indeed work at hotels and are drunks(just kidding)...some of them.
The embargo is only with the US...granted the country would possibly hve more support if it weren't enemies of the states...Mexico, Puerto Rico, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, etc. aren't exactly bathing in the wealth while being friendly to the states. The system in Cuba is messed up and most people are so off base in their understanding of what Cuba is like when until they'be gone there.
You can quote from Doctor's journals all day until you're blue in the face....if you haven't been there I don't really care what your opinion is because realistically you shouldn't have one. Their hospitals are outdated and dirty, their lifestyles and nutrition isn't healthy, so calling Cuba some amazing medical land of perfection or painting it anything close to that is just freaking stupid.
Cuba's problems lie so much deeper than good vs. bad. When you go there you have a sense of amazement at the fact that everyone has a place to sleep and no one is likely to starve to death...until you realise that some people should barely call their homes decent places to sleep and most people can barely call their food there satisfying or nurturing.
What Chavez has to work with and what Castro had to work with are two different stories. Mixing them is a bad idea.
They do indeed have tons of doctors who do indeed work at hotels and are drunks(just kidding)...some of them.
The embargo is only with the US...granted the country would possibly hve more support if it weren't enemies of the states...Mexico, Puerto Rico, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, etc. aren't exactly bathing in the wealth while being friendly to the states. The system in Cuba is messed up and most people are so off base in their understanding of what Cuba is like when until they'be gone there.
You can quote from Doctor's journals all day until you're blue in the face....if you haven't been there I don't really care what your opinion is because realistically you shouldn't have one. Their hospitals are outdated and dirty, their lifestyles and nutrition isn't healthy, so calling Cuba some amazing medical land of perfection or painting it anything close to that is just freaking stupid.
Cuba's problems lie so much deeper than good vs. bad. When you go there you have a sense of amazement at the fact that everyone has a place to sleep and no one is likely to starve to death...until you realise that some people should barely call their homes decent places to sleep and most people can barely call their food there satisfying or nurturing.
What Chavez has to work with and what Castro had to work with are two different stories. Mixing them is a bad idea.
Quote from brokerboy:
Why are you such a retard? I put the definition of nationalism which I got from an internet dictionary and your telling me thatâs wrong too. Youâre having an argument about things I did not even say. You donât even know how to use the quote system on Elite and youâre attacking me. I donât want to shock you cupcake but Putin works for Putin. Bush works for Bush and Hu Jintoa works for Hu Jintoa. Nobody is going to question who is most important to Chavez. Its sad how slow you are Cuba has had an embargo for 50 years now so do you have an honest example. My only point is donât tell other people whatâs best for there country. We built our Democracy on stealing the Indians land and then killing them. We then took black people walking in the woods in South Africa as property put them on boats and sold them as slaves to build and run our farms. You cant have dirty hands then tell other people how to build there country especially when we did far worse things.
You are an idiot who doesn't understand that definition doesn't explain the whole story about "nationalization".Do you know what the expression "unintended consequences" means? Now it gets too complicated doesn't it?
Reg. Cuba, aren't they keeping profits at home? All of the sudden it's an embargo now? Can't they trade with the whole freaking world? (I am not aware of any blockade). How about East vs. West Germany(former)why you conveniently overlooked RM's post??
We built our Democracy on stealing the Indians land and then killing them. We then took black people walking in the woods in South Africa as property put them on boats and sold them as slaves to build and run our farms.
Gee you are an exceptional idiot.That's how democracy was built?
P.S. Hey nitwit the words "nationalism" and "nationalize" have no exactly the same meaning.
Quote from brokerboy:
This is what I said before why donât you get the point we were not the first victims. We fucked them and then they fucked us and we cried about it.
Listen you're full of shit. The point is that Castro did not NEED to nationalize hotels and resorts. He did so to steal property. If he wanted more honesty in reporting he could have achieved it or simply forced them to pay more taxes. America did not fuck Cuba. Besides Cuba allowed themselves to be "fucked" according to your definition anyway.
Castro is stupid. He nationalized hotels and resorts and other property but with the embargo in place (which was inevitable) no American tourist dollars were going to be flowing in anytime soon. So Castro is pissed that he is losing some tax revenue so he nationalizes the industries. Well that's a bit like killing the goose because the eggs aren't as big as you think they ought to be.
Quote from Cesko:
You are an idiot who doesn't understand that definition doesn't explain the whole story about "nationalization".Do you know what the expression "unintended consequences" means? Now it gets too complicated doesn't it?
Reg. Cuba, aren't they keeping profits at home? All of the sudden it's an embargo now? Can't they trade with the whole freaking world? (I am not aware of any blockade). How about East vs. West Germany(former)why you conveniently overlooked RM's post??
We built our Democracy on stealing the Indians land and then killing them. We then took black people walking in the woods in South Africa as property put them on boats and sold them as slaves to build and run our farms.
Gee you are an exceptional idiot.That's how democracy was built?
P.S. Hey nitwit the words "nationalism" and "nationalize" have no exactly the same meaning.
Are you saying we did not take the Indians land and kill them? Are you saying we did not have salves work the fields? Am I missing something? How the hell did we build and grow the nation goods and transfer it. Salves worked the fields and built the railroads and did a lot more in the early stages of our democracy.
There is not one person here saying communion is good all people are saying is who are we to judge.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/general/2002/02/21/slave-railroads.htm
Quote from Gottschalk:
Listen you're full of shit. The point is that Castro did not NEED to nationalize hotels and resorts. He did so to steal property. If he wanted more honesty in reporting he could have achieved it or simply forced them to pay more taxes. America did not fuck Cuba. Besides Cuba allowed themselves to be "fucked" according to your definition anyway.
Castro is stupid. He nationalized hotels and resorts and other property but with the embargo in place (which was inevitable) no American tourist dollars were going to be flowing in anytime soon. So Castro is pissed that he is losing some tax revenue so he nationalizes the industries. Well that's a bit like killing the goose because the eggs aren't as big as you think they ought to be.
You donât read history I am not full of shot. Youâre a 100% right he nationalized a lot of things to steal it but thatâs not how it all started. He paid a fare amount on the reported profit American companies were giving Cuba when he first started nationalizing. The US government liked the old dictator more who took over the county on a coup. Before the coup I think he was living in FL even and the person running Cuba was voted in by the people. Why was America ok with that?
Quote from Cesko:
No!!
Where do our great democracies manufacture everything that we consume nowadays? Well most of it is made in communist China and I find THAT pretty funny.
Why? Because paying somebody even 15$/hour to make a pair of shoes in the US is just too much for our great multi-nationals to handle. We also have those pesky child labor laws not to mention 8 hour workdays, week-ends etc...
Well this is simply supply and demand of labor. Companies go where labor is the most affordable. One thing that I have always wandered is this. Isn't there in India or China a CEO that can take the reins of a major US corporations, drive it's stock down 50% and do it for only 50$ Million dollars? You would think we wouldn't have to pay 250$M for an American to do the same thing.