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Is a good thing for Chavez that the US has already enough problems in the middle east, asia and colombia to actually do anything against venezuela. The last thing the Bush adm wants is another guerrilla war, + congress probably won't let them do it anyway.
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yes.. i am sure he is quite happy that our previous assasination attempts failed. god help them if we invade them illegally and kill their civilians too.
 
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From the Harvard Public Health Review published by the Harvard School of Public Health

"Socio-economic development is typically measured by health indicators such as infant mortality and life expectancy at birth. However, in Cuba, a nation beset by severely limited resources and political tensions both internal and external, these health markers are essentially the same as those in the United States and other parts of the industrialized world. Cuba also boasts the highest rate of public health service in Latin America and has one of the highest physician-to-population ratios in the world. Alone remarkable for a developing country, these feats are even more extraordinary considering the context of a US embargo that's been in effect since 1961."

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/review/review_summer_02/677cuba.html
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There are plenty of causes driving the health indicators outside of the health care system. If you can't afford to drink 10 colas a day and eat junk food you won't make yourself sick. And wow, Cuba has best health care in South America, is that saying much? There is nothing extraordinary demostrated in that paragraph other than an extraordinary effort by a country to have lots of doctors and almost nothing else worth mentioning. I've seen photos of cuba's hospitals, they are run down and not even kept clean. Morale has to be below the bottom for things to get that bad.
 
Quote from ratboy88:

yes.. i am sure he is quite happy that our previous assasination attempts failed. god help them if we invade them illegally and kill their civilians too.
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Everybody should read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" for sure. The US corporations/govt. is unbelievably agressive towards Latin America and the Middle East. During the Cold War they had an excuse in Latin America but nowadays?
 
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There are plenty of causes driving the health indicators outside of the health care system. If you can't afford to drink 10 colas a day and eat junk food you won't make yourself sick. And wow, Cuba has best health care in South America, is that saying much? There is nothing extraordinary demostrated in that paragraph other than an extraordinary effort by a country to have lots of doctors and almost nothing else worth mentioning. I've seen photos of cuba's hospitals, they are run down and not even kept clean. Morale has to be below the bottom for things to get that bad.
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It seems I remember a similar rebuttal before. Maybe it was even by you max. I don't know.

Perhaps if the country of Cuba wasn't still embargoed, they would possibly have a better economy.
Hell the cold war has been over for 20 years.
 
Quote from maxpi:

Everybody should read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" for sure. The US corporations/govt. is unbelievably agressive towards Latin America and the Middle East. During the Cold War they had an excuse in Latin America but nowadays?
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read it?? hell watch the video !!!
 
Quote from dcraig:

From the Harvard Public Health Review published by the Harvard School of Public Health

"Socio-economic development is typically measured by health indicators such as infant mortality and life expectancy at birth. However, in Cuba, a nation beset by severely limited resources and political tensions both internal and external, these health markers are essentially the same as those in the United States and other parts of the industrialized world. Cuba also boasts the highest rate of public health service in Latin America and has one of the highest physician-to-population ratios in the world. Alone remarkable for a developing country, these feats are even more extraordinary considering the context of a US embargo that's been in effect since 1961."

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/review/review_summer_02/677cuba.html
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Wow, did you just quote a review jouranl?! Amazing...did you have to read to do that?! Wow...so incredible.

I ask again...have you been to Cuba? Have you seen how miserable the malnutrition is there?

Uh, I hate to break it to you doc, but people get sick with doctors around. People die with doctors around. People are malnourished with doctors around. Do you want me to go on?

Have you been to Cuba? Have you seen how miserable people there are?

Okay...keep on quoting away genius. You'll not know until you've been and seen how miserable people there are and just how much value there is in a health system where the government feeds its citizens cigarettes and beer more than carrots and peaches.

You're naive.
 
Quote from maxpi:

There are plenty of causes driving the health indicators outside of the health care system. If you can't afford to drink 10 colas a day and eat junk food you won't make yourself sick. And wow, Cuba has best health care in South America, is that saying much? There is nothing extraordinary demostrated in that paragraph other than an extraordinary effort by a country to have lots of doctors and almost nothing else worth mentioning. I've seen photos of cuba's hospitals, they are run down and not even kept clean. Morale has to be below the bottom for things to get that bad.
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maxpi, thank you. The food that people in cuba eat because it's what they get and/or can afford would make a nutritionists head explode. soda and pizza are their staple foods!

some people are happier telling us how miserable or happy other people are without ever having gone to a place to find out themselves.
 
Quote from ktmexc20:

I love it when a person that comments about a subject, actually backs it up with real facts and not just more rhetoric. Well done dcraig.... touch'e! :D
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kt, you ever been to Cuba? Didn't think so...thanks.
 
Cesko was on the money when using Cuba as an example..I dont care what facts are shown. People dont risk their lives crossing the florida st8ts in an inner tube or leave loved ones behind because of healthcare ( ever heard of operation"Pedro pan?" ). When the embargo was first set in place Russia picked up the slack and our people were still fleeing in droves. The system sucks and it has been proven time and time again. Cuba was ahead of its time before the likes of Castro and had he not bamboozled his people out of hope we could have been one of the most advanced countries in the world....


p.s. Doctors are a dime a dozen in cuba but most work for hotels...what say you about that?


peace
 
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