USPS what is the point?

[oldtime]

I think there was a time when politicians liked to send out glossy advertisements every two years reminding people to vote for them, so it was important to keep rates low.

 

[zdreg]

Quote from trefoil:

None of this has anything to do with anything but your obsessions.
I don't give a flying patootie what happens in China or Korea re education. Makes no difference at all in my life, and if their education is better than ours and it leads to me being able to buy better stuff, how is that something I'm supposed to be upset about? You guys go back and forth from one argument to the next without making any logical connection between them.
My arguments are very simple: the Post Office was considered a necessary part of a well-functioning government by the guys who actually set it up. It costs nothing in taxes despite the evidence-free statements made in this thread re that. Ergo, if they're in trouble and need some help from the Feds, we should be able to give that help, since self-evidently (to anyone but an ET poster, apparently) they cost less than any other agency of government in terms of taxpayer burden.
That's it. All this other stuff you guys bring in is so much irrelevant handwaving.

 

[zdreg]

Quote from zdreg:

15 billion dollar loss is a mirage?

" don't give a flying patootie what happens in China or Korea re education. Makes no difference at all in my life, and if their education is better than ours"
when america becomes a 2nd world country because there is a shortage of skilled labor and is bankrupt because of debt to finance the overextended public sector you believe it will not affect you or your son. continue to believe in sand castles.

'You guys go back and forth from one argument to the next without making any logical connection between them."
again you personalize and have nor presented a counter argument.


just for the record does your wife work for the government?

you were called out and now your silence is deafening.

 

[piezoe]

Quote from zdreg:

their pensions are adjusted for inflation. the US will have argentina type inflation as the gov't prints money to pay off the federal pensioners. then as the states go broke they will print money to pay the salaries and pensions of state govt workers. the private sectors always pays.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=204524&highlight=argentina+zdreg
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=249703&highlight=argentina

Of course the private sector pays, as you say. But look on the bright side!:

While 47% of workers don't pay any net income tax (according to Romney ), it is probably close to 100% of this 47% that are either unemployed or low-wage private sector employees. On the other hand, probably close to 100% of federal employees pay at least some income tax.

Thus while it is true that "the private sector always pays," it is also true that "the public sector always pays." It is easy to forget that federal employees pay income taxes, and when they buy things with the income that remains after taxes, they are paying the salaries of those in the private sector.

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"Belief that government is bad creates bad government." -- George Soros.

 

[zdreg]

Quote from piezoe:

Of course the private sector pays, as you say. But look on the bright side!:

While 47% of workers don't pay any net income tax (according to Romney ), it is probably close to 100% of this 47% that are either unemployed or low-wage private sector employees. On the other hand, probably close to 100% of federal employees pay at least some income tax.

Thus while it is true that "the private sector always pays," it is also true that "the public sector always pays." It is easy to forget that federal employees pay income taxes, and when they buy things with the income that remains after taxes, they are paying the salaries of those in the private sector.

______________________
"Belief that government is bad creates bad government." -- George Soros.

"Thus while it is true that "the private sector always pays," it is also true that "the public sector always pays." It is easy to forget that federal employees pay income taxes, and when they buy things with the income that remains after taxes, they are paying the salaries of those in the private sector."

no wonder you are laughing. your statement is nonsensical. federal workers don't pay income taxes. the government takes from the private sector it then gives it to their workers. then they take some of it back thereby reducing the government deficit.

when they are spending they are returning some of it to the private sector which they grabbed unwilling from those who earned it.

 

[zdreg]

Quote from zdreg:

15 billion dollar loss is a mirage?

" don't give a flying patootie what happens in China or Korea re education. Makes no difference at all in my life, and if their education is better than ours"
when america becomes a 2nd world country because there is a shortage of skilled labor and is bankrupt because of debt to finance the overextended public sector you believe it will not affect you or your son. continue to believe in sand castles.

'You guys go back and forth from one argument to the next without making any logical connection between them."
again you personalize and have nor presented a counter argument.


just for the record does your wife work for the government?

here is a definition of a hedged trader: someone with a wife who works for the gov't.

 

[nutmeg]

USPS what is the point?

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I'll throw this out there.

You can construct a personal profile looking through one persons mail. You could construct a family/ household profile looking through the mail at one address.

Every piece of mail begins with a data base, junk mail especially.You could sort demographics perhaps as accurate as a census studying the mail in a zip code.

First class mail would narrow down the profile. Irs, gov't mail (local and state). You could determine who owns what by the type of mail.

If you subscribe to magazines, the gov't knows if you are a memeber of the NRA or any other organization.

Your surname is on the mail. You could make an educated guess on how many adults live in the home, related or unrelated.

The possibilities are endless and frightening.

The gestapo would have a field day with zip codes.

Peace.

 

[Bob111]

Quote from nutmeg:

USPS what is the point?

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I'll throw this out there.

You can construct a personal profile looking through one persons mail. You could construct a family/ household profile looking through the mail at one address.

Every piece of mail begins with a data base, junk mail especially.You could sort demographics perhaps as accurate as a census studying the mail in a zip code.

First class mail would narrow down the profile. Irs, gov't mail (local and state). You could determine who owns what by the type of mail.

If you subscribe to magazines, the gov't knows if you are a memeber of the NRA or any other organization.

Your surname is on the mail. You could make an educated guess on how many adults live in the home, related or unrelated.

The possibilities are endless and frightening.

The gestapo would have a field day with zip codes.

Peace.

i agree with all that,but in current state we are living in today it doesn't really matter,who would own this information. even if mail was delivered by private corp, any corp would be more than happy to give this info on silver platter to the gvt at his first request.
i remember gvt was asking search engine companies for something like this while ago and they immediately "fully cooperated"
the excuse will be somewhat "usual"-war on whatever..drugs,terrorism,child pornography..doesn't matter..