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Consider also that there is a lag between the increase of new cases and new deaths.

Sadly, I suspect the slower increase of covid deths compared to the faster increase of new cases is only temporary, once the lag time is passed the frmer will chatch up with the latter.

While I really hope to be wrong, I do not think I am.

This president and this administration will have these deaths on their conscience.
 
It's a good thing mortality rates are dropping (not) because this is what Florida's Covid 19 deaths rolling 7 day average looks like currently:
Florida Covid 19 deaths rolling 7 day average.png

Boys and girls can you say parabolic?
 
bone said:
I watched the linked video, and it’s the death toll, not the death rate.

What I’m interested in is deaths as a percentage of confirmed infections.
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As long as the entire population has not been tested, the mortality rate will change in two directions and can be manipulated. New cases are the result of testing. If testing happens mainly in the Southern states the result will be different from the results in the Northern states.

The numbers of deaths are rising and will still go up in 1-2 weeks when the new cases from today will result in more deaths. Whether the mortality rate is high or low does not change anything for people who died. Neither will it change for the family that stays behind.
Will you be less sad if mortality rate is low? Me not, I just care about the people who died.

Number of deaths in relation to the whole population is what counts. Testing often does not give a clear answer if somebody has covid-19 or not.
 
bone said:
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What I’m interested in is deaths as a percentage of confirmed infections.
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I'm not, deaths in pure numbers matter most to me ... if they are rising or dropping. And especially if the later is accelerating, as it is currently in many states.

"Whistling past the graveyard" seems appropriate here. Numbers tested, test positive, contact traced, hospitalized, recovered, vaccine(s) on the way yada yada. Dead is dead, nothing further to tally. If they bring death totals down and don't let them skyrocket again in fall/winter (not likely considered all the snowflakes who won't wear a simple piece of cloth over their traps when going out into public) then and only then will the economy fully recover .... a year or two thereafter. For shame it won't be in less than 3 1/2 months like the Prez hopes for. Ahhh

And no I wish Covid 19 never happened for anyone who thinks Never Trumpers like myself are happy. Period. Note not directed at you Bone.
 
While I agree that data can be flawed, some very important conclusions can be drawn from mortality rate - namely, how effective treatments are or are not (are we getting better at successfully treating COVID), and how deadly the strain of COVID is (viruses are not static - they mutate at an astonishing rate).

Ages of mortality and underlying conditions of mortality are also important. Should elderly people aged > XX be strictly locked down? Are some European Doctors right to say that the data shows that school is likely the safest place for kids to be?




virtusa said:
As long as the entire population has not been tested, the mortality rate will change in two directions and can be manipulated. New cases are the result of testing. If testing happens mainly in the Southern states the result will be different from the results in the Northern states.

The numbers of deaths are rising and will still go up in 1-2 weeks when the new cases from today will result in more deaths. Whether the mortality rate is high or low does not change anything for people who died. Neither will it change for the family that stays behind.
Will you be less sad if mortality rate is low? Me not, I just care about the people who died.

Number of deaths in relation to the whole population is what counts. Testing often does not give a clear answer if somebody has covid-19 or not.
More...
 
bone said:
While I agree that data can be flawed, some very important conclusions can be drawn from mortality rate - namely, how effective treatments are or are not (are we getting better at successfully treating COVID), and how deadly the strain of COVID is (viruses are not static - they mutate at an astonishing rate).

Ages of mortality and underlying conditions of mortality are also important. Should elderly people aged > XX be strictly locked down? Are some European Doctors right to say that the data shows that school is likely the safest place for kids to be?
More...

Just sounds like more denial and overthinking from another American on here concerning the virus. Many Americans aren't even following basic safety precautions yet they are still debating it or even worse denying the science still. Medical consensus is that if everyone wears non-medical masks in public where safe distances are not possible it will greatly reduce infections. Period, that was confirmed months ago. If you want "proof", I can ask one very basic question. Why does Canada have much, much lower rates of infection then the US ? The disparity in the numbers is massive now, by a factor of 10-20 ( pro rated by population ) almost every day in several states; some days the deaths are by a factor of 10 ( pro rated ) as well.

Are Americans that much more fragile then Canadians ? I suspect it's the public and their perception of the virus.
 
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