USA broken by the cost of criminals

Lucrum said:
Maybe, although I like three strikes and you're dead even better.
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Why 3 strikes? I'm in favor of 0 strikes.

I met Mike Reynolds when my family was considering our options when my nephew was mauled to death by the neighbors pit bulls. As much as I hate to say it, 3 strikes hasn't helped much. In fact, it was recently watered down.

I'm in favor of the following.

- all violent crime is a federal crime (murder, homicide, manslaughter, rape, assault with deadly weapon, etc.)
- offenders trial begins within 30 days
- if guilty, counsel has 7 days to file appeal
- if appeal not filed (in time), guilty is executed by 9:30 am on the 8th day
- appeal trial starts 7 days after appeal filing
- if guilt reaffirmed, execution by 9:30 am next morning.

All executions are burning at the stake, witnessed by school children (full sight and sound) from 4th-9th grade.

The only way to deter violent crime is to make the up-and-coming class of would-be offenders (i.e 12-15 yo) personally view the punishment their actions will result in.

Regarding currently jailed violent offenders, convert the super jail in CO to an execution center, and bus them in. Then stick them on an assembly line and mass execute..

According to this study, there were 1.3M prisoners in the US. 725K are violent offenders (roughly 55%).

That's 725K criminals who'll no longer menace society, or extract funds to pay for their incarceration. Much more savings if we need less law enforcement resources, though bureaucrats can always find a way to justify their existence/fiefdom.
No mercy. No exceptions.
 
All executions are burning at the stake, witnessed by school children (full sight and sound) from 4th-9th grade.
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LOL
 
blah12345678 said:
Why 3 strikes? I'm in favor of 0 strikes.

I met Mike Reynolds when my family was considering our options when my nephew was mauled to death by the neighbors pit bulls. As much as I hate to say it, 3 strikes hasn't helped much. In fact, it was recently watered down.

I'm in favor of the following.

- all violent crime is a federal crime (murder, homicide, manslaughter, rape, assault with deadly weapon, etc.)
- offenders trial begins within 30 days
- if guilty, counsel has 7 days to file appeal
- if appeal not filed (in time), guilty is executed by 9:30 am on the 8th day
- appeal trial starts 7 days after appeal filing
- if guilt reaffirmed, execution by 9:30 am next morning.

All executions are burning at the stake, witnessed by school children (full sight and sound) from 4th-9th grade.

The only way to deter violent crime is to make the up-and-coming class of would-be offenders (i.e 12-15 yo) personally view the punishment their actions will result in.

Regarding currently jailed violent offenders, convert the super jail in CO to an execution center, and bus them in. Then stick them on an assembly line and mass execute..

According to this study, there were 1.3M prisoners in the US. 725K are violent offenders (roughly 55%).

That's 725K criminals who'll no longer menace society, or extract funds to pay for their incarceration. Much more savings if we need less law enforcement resources, though bureaucrats can always find a way to justify their existence/fiefdom.
No mercy. No exceptions.
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Ditto! Especially the "burning at the stake".

Viewers should see that and think twice about committing violent/capital crimes.

Civilized society should NOT be required to suffer the criminal acts of the violent nor should society be burdened with the great expense of many years of incarceration.

Hey... Either pay your own way and be civil or BE DEAD!
 
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Looks like Barry Sotoro studied Saul Alinsky's writings far more than Constitutional law.

Probably why he doesn't know Jack s--t about the Constitution, what's in it or even comes close to following it.




Who is Saul Alinsky?

Saul David Alinsky, a writer, was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of the modern community organizing movement. He is most noted for his book Rules for Radicals.
Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA
Education: University of Chicago
Spouse: Irene Alinsky
Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals

Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S. ?

In case you hadn't noticed, all eight rules are currently in play

Can we turn around the eight social state agendas that have been insidiously injected into our culture.



How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools

8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?

Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S. It may be too late to reverse the decline.
 
Lucrum said:
Looks like Barry Sotoro studied Saul Alinsky's writings far more than Constitutional law.

Probably why he doesn't know Jack s--t about the Constitution, what's in it or even comes close to following it.




Who is Saul Alinsky?

Saul David Alinsky, a writer, was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of the modern community organizing movement. He is most noted for his book Rules for Radicals.
Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA
Education: University of Chicago
Spouse: Irene Alinsky
Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals

Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S. ?

In case you hadn't noticed, all eight rules are currently in play

Can we turn around the eight social state agendas that have been insidiously injected into our culture.



How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools

8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?

Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S. It may be too late to reverse the decline.
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"A letter from Saul Alinsky’s son David States: “Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we his approach 100th birthday.”
Obama taught workshops on Alinsky’s theories and methods for years and in 1985, he started working as a community organizer for and Alinskyite group called, “Developing Community Projects.” "

""Hillary Rodham as a student at Wellesly in 1969, interviewed Saul Alinsky and wrote her thesis on Alinsky’s theories and methods. She concludes her thesis by writing, “Alinsky is regarded by many as the proponent of a dangerous socio/political philosophy. As such he has been feared, just as Eugene Debs or Walt Whitman or Martin Luther King has been feared, because each embraced the most radical of political faiths, “democracy.”"

http://www.redstate.com/diary/delaw...-clinton-saul-alinsky-and-rules-for-radicals/

Read those rules and realize that the left in this country wishes to elect people who will put them into place.

It's so disgusting that it's hard to fathom that the left willfully supports that stuff.
How can any decent person even want to associate with them.
 
It's just government by people that don't want us to make our own decisions about what herbs to take teamed up with greedy cartels. Opium is the drug of choice for people that are deficient in endorphins. People that need it are going to find it whether it's illegal or legal. In the '90's the Medical Cartel drug manufacturers cranked out all the opiates their manufacturing lines could produce when it was known that they were being sold over the internet to addicts. Essentially they used the legal system to push opium off the shelves, replace it with their opiate pills, and sell it to addicts. They don't care about the cost of housing inmates, that money comes out of the taxpayers. Your real enemy is always the people with enough money to pay the wholesale whorehouse we know as congress to use the public's monies to get what they want.
 
Why not treat prisoners like any other capitalist resource ?
Instead of having them waste their time and our money by being in prison why not make them useful ?
As long as they are kept away from the public they could be auctioned off to business to fix cars, computers etc. The really useless could be put to work on the prison farm or renovating, cleaning etc.
Those that refuse ? Build a 30 ft guillotine in the prison yard and use it !!

For minor offences bring back the " stocks " and put them in the main square.

Put drugs on the same footing as alchohol ( also gets rid of drug dealer gangs )
 
The present mentality of the liberal politicians etc. encourages scroungers, tax dodgers, criminals of all descriptions etc.

But hang on one might say. Weren't many of the great cities, like Seattle built by " Boss Hog " type crooks ?

Zero tolerance of crime may well = zero growth.

In Lincoln County the mobsters owned the Sherrif and Judge. It wasn't Billy the Kid that was the criminal but " The House " that controlled the area.
 
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