US State Department Says New Testament is Anti-Semitic Hate Speech

Quote from Rearden Metal:

So when I say that you're way too quick to jump to conclusions, you're actually surprised and confused as to why I'd ever believe such a thing? Really?


damn, i forgot all about the FLDS raid... i think you piped in there too.. but were pretty soft. i nailed that one huh? did you see the final score? did you see how the texas supreme court ruled?

bottom line.. i have some decent victories and i can be wrong on things... as stated a long time ago, i voted for Bush in 2000 and boy was i bigtime wrong there. it taught me some very valuable lessons.

i am more than likely wrong on Gore.... and i will be wrong on things in the future. but if i am only right 80% of the time.. that means the mainstream media is wrong close to the inverse. (give or take 10%) now that ain't good.
 
Quote from ratboy88:

i was 100% right about the no wmd's. i caught untold hell from some people.
Bullshit. You registered on this site in December 2003, at that time Iraq had been occupied for more than half a year and the entire world knew that no wmds had been and likely would be found.

The very first line of your post is a lie.
 
Quote from a_person:

Bullshit. You registered on this site in December 2003, at that time Iraq had been occupied for more than half a year and the entire world knew that no wmds had been and likely would be found.

The very first line of your post is a lie.

LMAO... u seem mad. yes you are correct a_person, i had no life before i came to ET. i didn't argue with friends and colleagues.... nah... sorry ape... you will have to trust me on this one... but if you dont you are calling me a liar. wait.. i guess you just did.

in fact this topic (and my position) actually put a strain on some of my relationships. it was a very unpopular position for me to take.. so pardon me, i am going to take credit for it.
 
Quote from ratboy88:

LMAO... u seem mad. yes you are correct a_person, i had no life before i came to ET. i didn't argue with friends and colleagues.... nah... sorry ape... you will have to trust me on this one... but if you dont you are calling me a liar. wait.. i guess you just did.

in fact this topic (and my position) actually put a strain on some of my relationships. it was a very unpopular position for me to take.. so pardon me, i am going to take credit for it.
In other words as expected you can offer absolutely no proof of your claim. This actually is starting to become a pattern with you, no proof of your absurd conspiracy theories, not proof of your absurd "Christian Holocaust" allegations and certainly no proof of your clairvoyance about WMDs. LOL, keep making a fool of yourself.
 
Quote from ratboy88:

what are my choices... i.e. the small group of minds you speak of. the Essenes? i'll go with them. I am an Essene.


Ok. Next I'll ask Dick Cheney what happened on 9/11. Whatever group you associate with, it is likely the equivalant to the Essenes relative to New Testament valuation and interpretation. I parted company with the Essenes because they placed their faith in this world, for a Messiah to come and liberate this world, make it better, fix it up, punish the evildoers. That is not *the way*. Are you going to disclose your affiliations or not?

Quote from ratboy88:

and when i refer to you as new age it is a mindset that you exhibit. it is based on lies. your rhetoric closely resembles 'the great mystery' religions.

What is the lie, or lies that my mind-set is based on? I am not in favor of any mysteries. I am about the exposure of darkness to light, bringing confusion to clarity. The world is a mystery religion. I do not support it. Mystery religions, if you will take note, lead you around this world with carrots. Despite grandios offerings, they maintain the basic lie that this world is founded upon: It's alledged reality, the "reality" of differentiation, the "reality" of levels...heirarchy...levels of "knowledge"...the idea that you can create your own reality...the idea of the body [either dense or glorious]...the idea of independence of will, autonomy, individualism, separate minds, and special relationships. They intend to use the power of knowledge to fuel their dreamscapes and illusions. It's a charade since all non-knowledge based environments default to perception. Perception allows you to see what you wish, regardless of whether it is true or not. Backed by faith in illusions, mystery religions play with perceptions like a game. That is what makes this world what it is, and maintains it. Perception is an entirely pre-scripted environment. The die is cast. What appears as freedom is simply toying with the concept of judgement [decisions and choices based an partial knowledge].

On the other hand, I lead not around, but *out* of this world once and for all. You really have not done your homework, and are making decisions -judgements - based on incomplete information. But then, that is what makes this world turn. So if this world is your religion, by all means continue.

You are playing the part of some kind of prophet relative to earthly conditions, and pretending to shed light on darkness. So I represent competition I suppose. I'm calling you out. You are not part of the solution. If you were, there would be no competition for mind-share.

Jesus
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

NO, this is one issue where ratboy has a solid point.
Thimerosal containing vaccines are just one of three main possible ways for a person to become contaminated with mercury, causing symptoms that are indistinguishable from autism. Large fish (like tuna), and 'silver' dental fillings are the other two.

Bottom line is that by chelating (removing) the mercury from the body of an autistic child, he/she (usually he) can be completely cured of autism. There have been many such cases, fully documented, including the son of 90's hottie Jenny McCarthy.
Unlike some of ratboy's other claims, the mercury-autism connection is 100% legit.

Apparently I am a prisoner of my education; consequently, I am bothered by these facts:

The incidence of diagnosed autism has continued to increase after thimerosal was eliminated or drastically reduced in concentration in vaccines 7 years ago.

Contrary to all pop science and page after page of anecdotal crap on the internet, organic mercurials, unlike lead, are not a cumulative poison. If you don't get a large enough dose to kill you or cause permanent damage, you will in fact recover as mercury is eliminated via the kidneys.

The concentration of thimerosal in vaccines has never been very high, and it was used for many years in vaccines, but only in recent years have the number of autism cases diagnosed increased. Some think this is mainly because the symptoms are now widely known and thus children are being diagnosed at a younger and younger age.

There is not a single credible study in any reputable journal with valid controls and peer reviewed that shows a connection between mercury and autism. But there are hundreds of invalid studies and anecdotal accounts purporting a connection. This fact, of course, has furnished much fuel for the conspiracy advocates.

There surely are well over a billion people in the world that have mercury amalgam fillings, and yet since dentists began to fill teeth with amalgam more than a century ago, the health of populations with filings has improved dramatically.

We don't know what causes autism. We will undoubtedly find out, and it is highly unlikely to be thimerosal in vaccines or mercury in fillings, or mercury from eating fish, for that matter.

It could be that the recent rise in autism is simply due to a combination of earlier diagnoses and more accurate statistics.

As an aside, i might mention that if you search the internet you will find all sorts of pages purporting that aluminum causes Alzheimer's disease, even though it is now known that aluminum has nothing to do with alzheimers and the immediate cause is beta-folding of protein in the brain. A current hypothesis is that this incorrect folding is catalysed by a prion. But regardless, aluminum does not cause it. If you happen to be someone who believes that, than you had better not eat anything with baking powder in it. :D

P.S. I would be astounded and flabbergasted if you could point me to a single peer reviewed report in a mainstream journal of anyone being cured of autism, let alone being cured by chelation.
http://www.autism-watch.org/about/bio2.shtml
 
Quote from ratboy88:

your rhetoric closely resembles 'the great mystery' religions.

A mystery religion appeals to what makes no sense to save you. So this world qualifies. Also, certain religions carried forth in my name qualify as mystery religions. It will always be a "mystery" how you can be saved by blood, by death, or by pain. And it is a mystery to me how you are saved from your guilt when I don't believe in your guilt. If you insist that you must make guilt real, as if it is the truth about you, you will always be mystified by innocence. It's not possible to look for guilt and overcome guilt as a false concept. So long as you look, you will feel the feelings that make this world seem real. The words I speak make sense. So there is no mystery about them. Find innocence in the world, and you will find your own.

Jesus
 
Well this is partially true. Joshua was handed over to the Romans as the Jewish priesthood had no law on the books to put a man to death. According to the story, Pontius Pilate did not want to do the deed, he even tried to get them let one (Joshua) go as a Passover clemency. The mob refused.
Further, as historical records of Joshua are vague, allegedly he had lived about 100 year prior to the Biblical story. There are historical records in the Talmud of a sorcerer, who was killed by the Jews, his name was Joshua. Coincidence?

Quote from Rearden Metal:

OK, here's something I never understood:

According to the New Testament, Jesus was indisputably NOT killed by his fellow Jews, but rather perished at the hand of Roman soldiers, right?

Jesus' fellow Jews <i>did</i> have a role in bestowing the one available pardon on a hero of the anti-Roman rebellion, indirectly causing Jesus not to benefit from this possible pardon opportunity... but no Jew took part in the actual crucifixion, right?

So seriously, I'd like to know: What's the deal with all this "Jews killed Jesus" talk?
 
Quote from ratboy88:


i am more than likely wrong on Gore.... and i will be wrong on things in the future. but if i am only right 80% of the time.. that means the mainstream media is wrong close to the inverse. (give or take 10%) now that ain't good.

Sure, when it comes to predictions, an 80% success ratio is fantastic.

OK, I think I have a great 'out' for you: Perhaps whenever you <i>appear</i> to be jumping to a conclusion and making a claim with 100% cetainty, your <b>true intent</b> is really just to make a prediction on the likely outcome- even when you haven't phrased it that way.

In other words, when you say that a 'whitey' tape certainly exists, that's just your way of stating that you merely <i>think</i> it's likely such a tape will surface in the future... but you haven't actually jumped to any concrete conclusions on the matter yet.

This suggested 'out' is totally Zen for everyone, ratboy. Please take it!
 
Quote from piezoe:


Thank you for taking the time to explain all of that on my behalf, in a respectful tone. I definitely need to take your words into consideration, and it may well be true that I've been convinced of things that have no real scientific basis.

I hadn't put all that much time into trying to understand Autism.
I don't even personally know any autistic people, so you could say this whole thing is 'out of my field'. I should probably just stick to what I know, before making any more definitive claims.
 
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