US State Department Says New Testament is Anti-Semitic Hate Speech

[Sparohok]

Quote from ratboy88:

dude.. thats just the clergy.... i am not backing off my estimates for even a second.

So now we are back to your total aversion to evidence.

You can claim whatever the hell you want, but until you provide some evidence, it's just your hyperactive imagination at work.

Just to remind you, your claim is that the Bolsheviks killed 40+ million Russians specifically because they were Christian, as part of an attempt to physically eradicate Christians from Russia. If this is not what you intend to claim, you need to use a word other than genocide, because that's what genocide means.

Martin

 

[Sparohok]

Quote from ratboy88:

now after seeing Clinton's Law i will refer to it as a Holocaust.

Some advice, to avoid offending people:

"When capitalized Holocaust refers specifically to the destruction of Jews and other Europeans by the Nazis and may also encompass the Nazi persecution of Jews that preceded the outbreak of the war."

http://www.answers.com/holocaust&r=67

Martin

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from Sparohok:

Some advice, to avoid offending people:

"When capitalized Holocaust refers specifically to the destruction of Jews and other Europeans by the Nazis and may also encompass the Nazi persecution of Jews that preceded the outbreak of the war."

http://www.answers.com/holocaust&r=67

Martin

Thanks I will remember that.. i will use the capitalization for both... but no others. there is no real authority on the matter, so i will show both groups the respect.

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from Sparohok:



Just to remind you, your claim is that the Bolsheviks killed 40+ million Russians specifically because they were Christian, as part of an attempt to physically eradicate Christians from Russia. If this is not what you intend to claim, you need to use a word other than genocide, because that's what genocide means.

what is your best estimate? i have offered proof. you think 100 million were scientologist? come on you can't be serious. you know out of that number there is a large percentage that were Christians.... and what about the 200,000 clergy? you don't think they were targeted because of their beliefs? who is being naive now?

 

[Rearden Metal]

Quote from ratboy88:

no.. my point is that depending on the issue.... i will respond accordingly. you try to label me as judgmental and rigid in my positions.

when people are being hurt(war... vaccines...fluoride).. and i have done research on the dynamic i will act accordingly.

no straw man at all... a little surprised rearden. i am not dogmatic.... regardless of what you think. these acts of hostility deserve emotional responses.

unfortunately i see too many things accelerating now.... i wish it weren't so. these nuts are itching to bomb Iran and it is all based on lies again.

so put your little straw man away until it is appropriate.

So when I say that you're way too quick to jump to conclusions, you're actually surprised and confused as to why I'd ever believe such a thing? Really?

A couple weeks back, when some 2-bit blogger started those baseless Michelle Obama 'whitey-tape' rumors, do you recall your reaction? It wasn't; "There <i>might</i> be a whitey tape", or; "<i>Some people are saying</i> there's a whitey tape"- NO! You, ratboy, were 100% positive of this tape's existence as a foregone conclusion, and you were already figuring out all the possible implications said tape will have on the elections!

I could easily give you fifty more similar examples, were I in the mood to piss away countless hours on archive-diving... but come on! Why not just <b>admit the obvious</b> here, as any non-LoZZZer would do?

(Replying by pointing out that horrible & lethal misdeeds like pre-emptive war will always cause you to speak out in opposition... has <b>absolutely nothing</b> to do with my point above. Telling me what you had for lunch yesterday would be equally relevant.)

 

[I am...]

Quote from ratboy88:

by all means ask away. the floor is all yours JZ!

What is your religious affiliation relative to the New Testament? I haven't been labeled demonic with such consistent dogmatism since the Pharisees made judgements about my authority. You are way off-base regarding new age-ism since I am in favor of abolishing time forever. Why would I want a "new age" when every age is still hell? Why is it that your speech toward me seems laced with hate? What is it about the New Testament that has got you bothered about me at all? "Ramtha" and "new age" are four-letter words pretty much only to a small group of minds associated with the New Testament. Which one of these groups are you associated with?

Jesus

 

[Sparohok]

Quote from ratboy88:

what is your best estimate?

Are we now bargaining over dead Russian Orthodox? Is that what this thread has come to? Is that really how you want to spend your time?

I'll give you 200,000 and that's my final offer. Take it or leave it, you're lucky to get that much.

you think 100 million were scientologist? come on you can't be serious.

I don't know how many times, and how many different ways I can say, yes, tens of millions of Russian Christians died at the hands of the Communists, tens of millions more at the hands of the Germans. So, no, I don't think they were Scientologists. Pay attention.

How many were singled out for death specifically for the fact that they were Christians? History records no more than 200,000 -- arguably zero.

Martin

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

So when I say that you're way too quick to jump to conclusions, you're actually surprised and confused as to why I'd ever believe such a thing? Really?

A couple weeks back, when some 2-bit blogger started those baseless Michelle Obama 'whitey-tape' rumors, do you recall your reaction? It wasn't; "There <i>might</i> be a whitey tape", or; "<i>Some people are saying</i> there's a whitey tape"- NO! You, ratboy, were 100% positive of this tape's existence as a foregone conclusion, and you were already figuring out all the possible implications said tape will have on the elections!

I could easily give you fifty more similar examples, were I in the mood to piss away countless hours on archive-diving... but come on! Why not just <b>admit the obvious</b> here, as any non-LoZZZer would do?

(Replying by pointing out that horrible & lethal misdeeds like pre-emptive war will always cause you to speak out in opposition... has <b>absolutely nothing</b> to do with my point above. Telling me what you had for lunch yesterday would be equally relevant.)

it has everything to do with it. i was 100% right about the no wmd's. i caught untold hell from some people. it dictates a certain emotional response.

the whitey tape is a guess... not based on a 'bloggers' assertion. based on beckels appearance on TV speaking of one degree of separation of the tape, the geraldo video... then your blogger larry johnson. larry johnson isn't just a blogger he is ex intelligence. will the tape come out in october? i guess we will have to wait and see. i will gladly say i am wrong in november if no tape surfaces.


and as far as my track record goes its pretty decent. i didnt jump to conclusions when a baseball player flew into a manhattan bldg. unlike many, i didn't jump to conclusions when the media claimed al qaeda blew up some retards in a bazaar. i called bullshit on the iranian boat tapes and the british hostages.

i nailed scooter libby a year before most re: plame. i was one of the first to speak out about bldg7. we already discussed mercury in vaccines. same goes for fluoride.

i said hillary would be annointed in 08 back in 04.... but when YouTube hit the scene i knew she had no chance. i told people she couldn't survive a youtube campaign. i knew she would macaca herself.

it looks like i will be wrong on Gore... but my main assertion that the candidates are pre selected and its a WWF pony show, is something i stand by.

i went at it with oldtrader concerning real estate and i got pretty lucky in predicting the actual time frame the dam would burst. i called it a credit bubble and tried to explain it had more to do with monetary policy than his local knowledge of the real estate market. btw, he doesn't respond to me now.

i bust haroki pretty hard on the pancake theory for good reason. he was very aggressive in his attacks regarding the theory and even the govt finally had to come out and admit it was foolishness.

i also stuck by ron paul when the ridiculous 'newsletters' hit. you were ready to throw him under the bus.

these are just things off the top of my head.. no archive hunting.

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from I am Shirley Mclaine...:

What is your religious affiliation relative to the New Testament? I haven't been labeled demonic with such consistent dogmatism since the Pharisees made judgements about my authority. You are way off-base regarding new age-ism since I am in favor of abolishing time forever. Why would I want a "new age" when every age is still hell? Why is it that your speech toward me seems laced with hate? What is it about the New Testament that has got you bothered about me at all? "Ramtha" and "new age" are four-letter words pretty much only to a small group of minds associated with the New Testament. Which one of these groups are you associated with?

Ramtha

what are my choices... i.e. the small group of minds you speak of. the Essenes? i'll go with them. I am an Essene.

and when i refer to you as new age it is a mindset that you exhibit. it is based on lies. your rhetoric closely resembles 'the great mystery' religions.

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from Sparohok:


I don't know how many times, and how many different ways I can say, yes, tens of millions of Russian Christians died at the hands of the Communists, tens of millions more at the hands of the Germans. So, no, I don't think they were Scientologists. Pay attention.

How many were singled out for death specifically for the fact that they were Christians? History records no more than 200,000 -- arguably zero.

ok.. now we are getting somewhere. so we can move on to intent. give me sometime.. i am extremely busy with new projects. lay off the taunts.... i have a lot on my plate.