US State Department Says New Testament is Anti-Semitic Hate Speech

[jem]

Hitler - was impressed with the way the Catholic Church was organized. But his adivsers stated that he thought Christianity was a symbol of decay and that he hated the Catholic Churches leaders.

2. If you were to do a critical examination of history -you might conclude the inquisition was a political power play by the king of spain. You might find that the Catholic Church in Rome spoke out against it.

3. As far as Crusades are concerned - are you saying that Crusades were not a response to Muslims crimes against humanity? When I read about the Crusades I notice historians taking both sides. Some try and condemn the Chruch and some say that the Crusades were a stand against Muslims taking over by the sword. I have my own thesis but I am sure you would consider just as biased as your own.



Stu said -

On the other hand however, Christianity is an ideology, and was the ideology that drove the Inquisition and the Crusades resulting in horrendous crimes against humanity. In addition, Hitler was raised a Catholic and he expressed how his religion affected his thinking (if you can call fascism thinking).

Quote from stu:

Adjectives and Nouns are not the composite. For what you say to be correct, Atheism would have to be an ideology. It is not. Christianity is.

Stalin acted in the name of Communism not Atheism. There are most likely, more Christian Bolshevist than there are Atheist Bolshevists. Russia is a very religious country.
There are good and bad sorts in christian and atheist, but Communism was the ideology that motivated Stalin

On the other hand however, Christianity is an ideology, and was the ideology that drove the Inquisition and the Crusades resulting in horrendous crimes against humanity. In addition, Hitler was raised a Catholic and he expressed how his religion affected his thinking (if you can call fascism thinking).

So reasons for these atrocious actions are actually found in the orientation that characterizes the thinking behind Communism and Christianity. You tit!

 

[stu]

1.
"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews, I am fighting for the Lord's work." 1938 - Hitler - Reichstag speech.
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so," Hitler to Gerhard Engel 1941

2.
Any sort of credible critical examination will lead to the reasonable conclusion that the Inquisition was the judgment made by the Roman Catholic Church of heresy.

3.
The Crusades started out in reply to a plea from the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine (Roman / Catholic / Christian) Empire to recapture Jerusalem from Muslim rule and restrict expansion of Turks into Anatolia, which is in fact ironically part of Turkey. In any event are you saying 2 wrongs make a right? Up until the Crusades, Christianity was not all that bothered about such far off places like Jerusalem, until ideology changed its collective mind.

Stalin acted in the ideology of Communism and the Roman Catholic Church in the ideology of Christianity

Quote from jem:

Hitler - was impressed with the way the Catholic Church was organized. But his adivsers stated that he thought Christianity was a symbol of decay and that he hated the Catholic Churches leaders.

2. If you were to do a critical examination of history -you might conclude the inquisition was a political power play by the king of spain. You might find that the Catholic Church in Rome spoke out against it.

3. As far as Crusades are concerned - are you saying that Crusades were not a response to Muslims crimes against humanity? When I read about the Crusades I notice historians taking both sides. Some try and condemn the Chruch and some say that the Crusades were a stand against Muslims taking over by the sword. I have my own thesis but I am sure you would consider just as biased as your own.



Stu said -

On the other hand however, Christianity is an ideology, and was the ideology that drove the Inquisition and the Crusades resulting in horrendous crimes against humanity. In addition, Hitler was raised a Catholic and he expressed how his religion affected his thinking (if you can call fascism thinking).

 

[Sparohok]

Quote from ratboy88:

and to be quite frank your Christian holocaust denial is becoming disturbing.

Still waiting for you to post some evidence for your hypothetical Christian genocide / holocaust in Russia.

Tap tap tap....

Martin

 

[Sparohok]

Come on ratboy, show us the evidence. Or were you just running your mouth?

 

[ratboy88]

knock yourself out:

http://video.google.com/videosearch...rch=&so=1#q=russia genocide&hl=en&sitesearch=

 

[ratboy88]

here.... research this one for me:

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Part 2
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[a_person]

Quote from ratboy88:

knock yourself out:

http://video.google.com/videosearch...rch=&so=1#q=russia genocide&hl=en&sitesearch=

Wow, so the best evidence you have is a bunch of patently antisemitic videos. Moreover none of those videos has anything to do with "Christian holocaust" which you invented with the sole purpose of cheapening the significance of the real Holocaust. Not bad NaziRat, not bad at all, what a better way to show your true colors.

Oh and btw the bloody history of communism has nothing to do with religion and Christianity either, you're probably the only idiot on the planet who does not know that communism is based on class not religious struggle.

 

[murray t turtle]

Quote from achilles28:

What concerns me is the parsing of hate speech by inflection.

The Jews Killed Jesus! (fiery sermon?)

The Jews Killed Jesus! (anti-semitic hate speech?)

Who decides?

Hate Speech should not even exist, in concept.

Yes, speech can be hateful but it shouldn't be criminalized.

Besides the Constitutionality of it, we get into all these grey areas of what constitutes "hate" and what doesn't. Often times, the distinction is politicized, made to benefit Special Interest or the Government itself.

So this whole National Obsession with Anti-Semtic speech is blow way out of proportion.

Wheres the US State Department dossier on Anti-Black speech? Or Anti-Christian speech? Or Anti-Mexican speech?

Why don't we have one for those Groups? But one for Jewish groups?

Seems a tad unfair, doesn't it?

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Excellent points,A26.
However Senator Barack Hussein may take you up on ''mexican hate speech''He accused Lou Dobbs & Rush Limbaugh of being responsible for increase in Hispanic hate crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well , if the Jews want it, may be helpful in a FBI target sense;
lots of Christians have been threatened/hated.Dont see much point in more gov in it myself .

Actually the Roman gov killed Jesus Christ;
but really the bottom line is Christ died , was buried for our sins , rose again the third day.Thats the good news.

So a blame game like some[immature or false religious ]do,misses the whole point.

Now because a liar, demonized murderer like Hitler claimed to be a Catholic, or[Christian some said]; well if you want to take the word of a liar/murder,free country.

To title or camp on a Sermon''Jews killed Jesus'' misses the whole point, it may be anti-Semitic;
Salvation is of the Jews,Jesus said [John 4].And so much Hebrew history[good & bad] in in Bible,most likely a false preacher like Rev Wright would preach that.

Bible teaches personal responsibility, not blame game.


Good topic,A28

 

[Rearden Metal]

REPOST:
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OK, here's something I never understood:

According to the New Testament, Jesus was indisputably NOT killed by his fellow Jews, but rather perished at the hand of Roman soldiers, right?

Jesus' fellow Jews did have a role in bestowing the one available pardon on a hero of the anti-Roman rebellion, indirectly causing Jesus not to benefit from this possible pardon opportunity... but no Jew took part in the actual crucifixion, right?

So seriously, I'd like to know: What's the deal with all this "Jews killed Jesus" talk?
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Is no one familiar with the New Testament?

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from a_person:

Wow, so the best evidence you have is a bunch of patently antisemitic videos. Moreover none of those videos has anything to do with "Christian holocaust" which you invented with the sole purpose of cheapening the significance of the real Holocaust. Not bad NaziRat, not bad at all, what a better way to show your true colors.

Oh and btw the bloody history of communism has nothing to do with religion and Christianity either, you're probably the only idiot on the planet who does not know that communism is based on class not religious struggle.

look, she called me a nazi even though i vehemently condemn hitler. i dont question the holocaust and i didnt post anything remotely anti-semitic? did you even watch what i posted? stalin was a christian... was thinking of becoming a priest and then became an atheist and a butcher. (according to the video)

communism had nothing to do with class struggle.. that is the bs propaganda sold to idiots like you.. and u can't wait to gobble it up. im sorry but millions of christians were systematically murdered and your venom towards me for bringing it up is worse than any skinhead hate group. you are pure filth for denigrating these peoples' mass deaths.

if you are stupid enough to blame me for the links of videos, i suggest you call Sergey Brin and Larry Page. they are responsible for the algorithms not me.

as for communism having nothing to do with religion? ummm.. u need to go read some more.. it was absolutely part of the communist plank. abolition of religion along with property ownership and other barbaric idea's which sound eerily similar to the 2008 democrats.