US senator new bill targeting Hong Kong new law

faltd said:
Right, I thought so, that you can't answer those questions as it would bring to light the blatant hyprocrisy.

Bottom line, HK is sovereign Chinese territory, every nation on earth fully acknowledges that. China can do in HK what it pleases. The US has zero business in meddling in China's affairs. And if we want to talk about China's human rights abuses or the violation of an agreement between China and the UK (of which the US has never been part of) then it should better come from someone who either comes from a country with a clean track record or otherwise from someone honest and open enough to not only see black and white but able to admit that one's own country has messed up at least as often as China. All else is hypocrisy. I don't even entertain the posts of trolls (not you) who have nothing of value to add but are brainwashed and infected by the superiority complex bug. I do like your otherwise intelligent and well thought out content in other threads by the way.
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There's no hypocrisy, changing topic just distracts from the original issue. I've always been opposed armed intervention unless absolutely necessary. I opposed the Iraq war as the proof was thin and we didn't have the UN's backing, I did not oppose bombing Afghanistan (post 911) as they sheltered the terrorist who killed many Americans, I don't know enough about this pipeline project other than we fucked up Crimea & now Donnie's playing catch up w/Russian sanctions that just so happen to hurt the EU.

There's wrong and there's right, I believe meddling is fine if it's morally right....helping Ukraine as our ally against Russian invasion is right, helping democratic seeking people against extermination is right, and so on, and so forth. If you think the world is going to back China's sovereignty once US intelligence starts exposing human right abuses of Uyghurs & HK dissidents, you've got another thing coming.
 
What are you talking about? The entire world already knows and has evidence of human rights abuses towards Uyghurs and Thibetan dissidents. Which country is almost the only country that has pointed this out at every state visit to China or by Chinese to their country? Germany. Not the UK, not the US, not a single Anglo Saxon country. If the US during official state visits will ever point out those abuses then it will be purely for self-serving geopolitical and economic purposes, certainly not on moral or ethical grounds. And the US will never follow through on any of its lip services towards the HK issue. In this, I highly welcome the emerging power of China and that it is militarily as well as size-wise massive enough to disable the US from making any stupid moves on their territory ever. And as China said, it highly welcomes an official investigation by world organizations into the origins of the coronavirus. But it also stated correctly, that the US should be careful what it is asking for. Can you personally guarantee with your life that your country surely did not seed that virus on Chinese territory? Are you willing to bet the life of your family on this? I can bet mine that my country was not involved, I would not wager the life of my family on the US, though.

Here4money said:
There's no hypocrisy, changing topic just distracts from the original issue. I've always been opposed armed intervention unless absolutely necessary. I opposed the Iraq war as the proof was thin and we didn't have the UN's backing, I did not oppose bombing Afghanistan (post 911) as they sheltered the terrorist who killed many Americans, I don't know enough about this pipeline project other than we fucked up Crimea & now Donnie's playing catch up w/Russian sanctions that just so happen to hurt the EU.

There's wrong and there's right, I believe meddling is fine if it's morally right....helping Ukraine as our ally against Russian invasion is right, helping democratic seeking people against extermination is right, and so on, and so forth. If you think the world is going to back China's sovereignty once US intelligence starts exposing human right abuses of Uyghurs & HK dissidents, you've got another thing coming.
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faltd said:
What are you talking about? The entire world already knows and has evidence of human rights abuses towards Uyghurs and Thibetan dissidents. Which country is almost the only country that has pointed this out at every state visit to China or by Chinese to their country? Germany. Not the UK, not the US, not a single Anglo Saxon country. If the US during official state visits will ever point out those abuses then it will be purely for self-serving geopolitical and economic purposes, certainly not on moral or ethical grounds. And the US will never follow through on any of its lip services towards the HK issue. In this, I highly welcome the emerging power of China and that it is militarily as well as size-wise massive enough to disable the US from making any stupid moves on their territory ever. And as China said, it highly welcomes an official investigation by world organizations into the origins of the coronavirus. But it also stated correctly, that the US should be careful what it is asking for. Can you personally guarantee with your life that your country surely did not seed that virus on Chinese territory? Are you willing to bet the life of your family on this? I can bet mine that my country was not involved, I would not wager the life of my family on the US, though.
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you missed the point entirely. I'm saying if the US chose to propagandize Chinese abuses against its populations it will do so and garner the world's support, who by and large believes the virus originated in Wuhan, regardless of the true origin or Chinese pushed conspiracies.

If you're trying to win support for China, you need to stop using infantile bets to drive a point, and maybe use paragraph breaks.
 
faltd said:
What are you talking about? The entire world already knows and has evidence of human rights abuses towards Uyghurs and Thibetan dissidents. Which country is almost the only country that has pointed this out at every state visit to China or by Chinese to their country? Germany. Not the UK, not the US, not a single Anglo Saxon country. If the US during official state visits will ever point out those abuses then it will be purely for self-serving geopolitical and economic purposes, certainly not on moral or ethical grounds. And the US will never follow through on any of its lip services towards the HK issue. In this, I highly welcome the emerging power of China and that it is militarily as well as size-wise massive enough to disable the US from making any stupid moves on their territory ever. And as China said, it highly welcomes an official investigation by world organizations into the origins of the coronavirus. But it also stated correctly, that the US should be careful what it is asking for. Can you personally guarantee with your life that your country surely did not seed that virus on Chinese territory? Are you willing to bet the life of your family on this? I can bet mine that my country was not involved, I would not wager the life of my family on the US, though.
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You are not smart if you putting your life on this s..t, relax get life.
 
faltd said:
What are you talking about? The entire world already knows and has evidence of human rights abuses towards Uyghurs and Thibetan dissidents. Which country is almost the only country that has pointed this out at every state visit to China or by Chinese to their country? Germany. Not the UK, not the US, not a single Anglo Saxon country. If the US during official state visits will ever point out those abuses then it will be purely for self-serving geopolitical and economic purposes, certainly not on moral or ethical grounds. And the US will never follow through on any of its lip services towards the HK issue. In this, I highly welcome the emerging power of China and that it is militarily as well as size-wise massive enough to disable the US from making any stupid moves on their territory ever. And as China said, it highly welcomes an official investigation by world organizations into the origins of the coronavirus. But it also stated correctly, that the US should be careful what it is asking for. Can you personally guarantee with your life that your country surely did not seed that virus on Chinese territory? Are you willing to bet the life of your family on this? I can bet mine that my country was not involved, I would not wager the life of my family on the US, though.
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faltd said:
What are you talking about? The entire world already knows and has evidence of human rights abuses towards Uyghurs and Thibetan dissidents. Which country is almost the only country that has pointed this out at every state visit to China or by Chinese to their country? Germany. Not the UK, not the US, not a single Anglo Saxon country. If the US during official state visits will ever point out those abuses then it will be purely for self-serving geopolitical and economic purposes, certainly not on moral or ethical grounds. And the US will never follow through on any of its lip services towards the HK issue. In this, I highly welcome the emerging power of China and that it is militarily as well as size-wise massive enough to disable the US from making any stupid moves on their territory ever. And as China said, it highly welcomes an official investigation by world organizations into the origins of the coronavirus. But it also stated correctly, that the US should be careful what it is asking for. Can you personally guarantee with your life that your country surely did not seed that virus on Chinese territory? Are you willing to bet the life of your family on this? I can bet mine that my country was not involved, I would not wager the life of my family on the US, though.
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What is your country?
 
The US for years has unsuccessfully tried to smear China with lies and dishonest and false accusations. Has the CFO of Huawei been extradited and has she been confronted with evidence by US prosecutors? Has Europe or even the UK completely shut out Huawei from their next-gen mobile phone auctions? Not that I know of. Is anyone taking some wild US accusations of the virus having escaped a lab seriously? Not that I know of. Instead...


Factual, funny, well made, short. To the point. Case made.


Here4money said:
you missed the point entirely. I'm saying if the US chose to propagandize Chinese abuses against its populations it will do so and garner the world's support, who by and large believes the virus originated in Wuhan, regardless of the true origin or Chinese pushed conspiracies.

If you're trying to win support for China, you need to stop using infantile bets to drive a point, and maybe use paragraph breaks.
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faltd said:
The US for years has unsuccessfully tried to smear China with lies and dishonest and false accusations. Has the CFO of Huawei been extradited and has she been confronted with evidence by US prosecutors? Has Europe or even the UK completely shut out Huawei from their next-gen mobile phone auctions? Not that I know of. Is anyone taking some wild US accusations of the virus having escaped a lab seriously? Not that I know of. Instead...


Factual, funny, well made, short. To the point. Case made.
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What is your country?
 
1957may10 said:
What is your country?
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You see you scare to death to release your resistance country. I know why.
You are sitting in cave and bring to free world your bs propaganda. Trolo trolo lo
My country is United States an I’m proud of it.
 
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