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US Healthcare A Shame vis-a-vis Canada
- Thread starter toc
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Quote from toc:
Lick the boot of quality until it suffocates you !!
That is what is happening to American families who run into bankruptcies, 60% of them due to sudden medical costs and sky high prices.
Talk about $5 per cup of plastic glass of water and call it Oral Cleansing Therapy. EVILNESS !!
your healthcare system needs reform, basically the govt needs to stay out of it. obamacare is not the solution.
Quote from toc:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/11...-health-care-system-is-better-than-obamacare/
21 Reasons why Canadian healthcare is better than that of the US (including Obamacare)
Three eyecatching points:
In Canada cost of healthcare per person is half to that of the US.
No one dies in Canada due to lack of healthcare !!
No one or family goes bankrupt due to health related needs. In US 60% of families go bankrupt as a result of medical costs.
I work in Toronto every week for the past two years commuting each week from North Carolina.
All I hear from everyone in Canada is complaints about the long waits for health care. Over 10% of Canadians come to United States for healthcare - usually paying out of their own pocket.
One of my Canadian colleagues recently took their teenager to the U.S. for an MRI for an ACL after waiting over 4 months in Canada for it. In the U.S., they got an appointment in under 3 days. They will also get the surgery in the U.S. out of their own pocket.
Welcome to Canada where the median wait time to receive medical treatment is 18 weeks and people are demanding private options
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/1...health-care-to-combat-long-wait-times-report/
The national median wait time was 18.2 weeks, about three days longer than last year, according to Waiting Your Turn, the 2013 edition of the Fraser Instituteâs annual report. In 1993, the median wait time was 9.3 weeks.
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The longest median wait time was in Prince Edward Island at 40.1 weeks; the second longest was New Brunswick at 31.9 weeks.
The shortest median wait was in Ontario at 13.7 weeks; the second shortest was in Quebec at 17.8 weeks.
Manitobaâs wait time was 25.9 weeks, Nova Scotiaâs was 25.8, Saskatchewanâs was 25.7, Newfoundland and Labradorâs was 23.7, Albertaâs was 23.1, and British Columbiaâs was 19.9.
Quote from toc:
In US 60% of families go bankrupt as a result of medical costs.
Fact-check time
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/12/health-care-bill-bankruptcies/
"Buried in the study is the fact that only 27 percent of the surveyed debtors had unreimbursed medical expenses exceeding $1,000 over the course of the two years prior to their bankruptcy."
Nope.
Quote from toc:
No one dies in Canada due to lack of healthcare !!
Fact-check time - In Canada there is endless press on people dying while waiting months for surgery.
Of sure - they are covered with national insurance - but there is a distinct lack of healthcare delivered in a timely manner to save your life.
Bariatric surgery waiting times in Canada
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2689726/
The waiting times for bariatric surgery are the longest of any surgically treated condition. Given the significant reduction in the relative risk of death with bariatric surgery (40%â89% depending on the study), the current waiting times for the procedure in Canada are unacceptable.
Analysis of deaths while waiting for cardiac surgery among 29 293 consecutive patients in Ontario, Canada
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1728656/
Patients waiting for valve surgery have a higher risk of death than patients waiting for isolated CABG. Guidelines to promote safer and fairer queuing for non-CABG cardiac surgery are needed. Shorter waiting lists, better compliance with existing guidelines, and guideline revisions to upgrade patients with left ventricular dysfunction could generate additional reductions in the already low risk of death for patients waiting for isolated CABG.
Canadian healthcare is the best in the world....
Until you need a heart surgery. Then you just die.
Until you need a heart surgery. Then you just die.
Quote from actionzip54:
Canadian healthcare is the best in the world....
Until you need a heart surgery. Then you just die.
Where to these crazy, nutso ideas come from? From the AMA?
Did you find it curious that the British parliament is trying to figure out how to put a stop to medical tourism from U.S. citizens? It is costing the British half a billion a year!
Quote from piezoe:
Where to these crazy, nutso ideas come from? From the AMA?
Did you find it curious that the British parliament is trying to figure out how to put a stop to medical tourism from U.S. citizens? It is costing the British half a billion a year!
Fact-Check time
"the number of foreign patients paying for NHS care is double the number coming to the UK seeking free healthcare â a group estimated to number between 5,000 and 20,000 by government-commissioned research published earlier this week. The new research also found that, overall, the UK is a ânet exporterâ of patients, with 63,000 travelling abroad for treatment in 2010
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...ploit-free-healthcare-in-britain-8902520.html
P.S. - Very few if any of these U.K 'medical tourist' patients come from the U.S. - most are coming Poland, Bulgaria, and other EU countries - which is why the U.K. is trying to get 500M Euros reimbursed from other EU countries - not the U.S.
funny thing is, you get down on that Mexican border and almost everyone goes across for healthcare, especially dental.
I don't know where the Mexicans go, but they probably have a border they cross too.
Go south young man!
I don't know where the Mexicans go, but they probably have a border they cross too.
Go south young man!