Unvaccinated 5 times more likely to get Omicron
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My position is not unvaxxed,its unvaxxed but having prior infection and recovery.
In the real world where you can put a face to the covid cases people dying of covid the 2nd time is virtually non existent and getting covid a 2nd time is very very rare.
In my real world examples of The NFL,US Congress and State Governors there are around 9000 people,only around 5 of that group got covid twice.Nearly 2,000 in that group who were vaccinated got covid.That matches the results of my own personal circle where mutiple friends and families who are vaccinated still got covid but those of us who had covid prior to the vaccine havent gotten it again.For me personally I had covid nearly 2 years ago in the beginning and haven't had it since.The antibodies from my previous infection is still protecting me nearly 2 years later while the vaccine needs a boost after a few months.GWB cliams there are thousands of athletes and celebs who got covid twice but so far has only been able to name around 5 by name.
That said I fully agree that the vaccine stops people from getting really sick and has saved millions of lives of people who never had covid before they were vaccinated.If I didnt have covid prior to the vaccine being available I would have gotten it.
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The state of Maryland has 24,800 reinfections cases by people never vaccinated. Yet, that's an undercount in just one single state of real-world examples. The only difference is that the specific names of each individual are not for the public record due to privacy issues.
With that said, I personally know nobody from Maryland that had Covid reinfection but that makes sense considering I don't personally know anybody from the state of Maryland.
Now there are another 49 states in America and you can now imagine the math of Covid Reinfections and whatever number you come up with...it's an undercount.
Just the same, I also think Covid Breakthrough Infections are also being undercounted due to the nature of Omicron causing mild symptoms (e.g. sore throat, a little fatigue, small fever) for most of the vaccinated because the mild illness can be easily ignored by many...never being genomic sequenced as a verifiable breakthrough infection.
Regardless, reinfections are not a big issue and will never be. There's more research and funding into Super Immunity as it should be now that we're transitioning from a Pandemic to an Endemic.
Months or years from now...we'll be thanking Omicron for giving most Americans and Canadians...super immunity.
wrbtrader
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That's the issue that you continue to ignore...
We know for a fact that there are Covid Breakthrough Infections and we stated it's all (reinfection, breakthrough infections are undercounted) but you guys keep ignoring the fact or "not acknowledging the fact" that there are Reinfections.
In fact, you continue mentioning you want the names of politicians, athletes that have been reinfected, and its another way to say that you believe there are so few as in its that's rare when in fact its due to the United States not having the ability to genomic sequence the Covid positive tests that would find reinfections...
To be exact...the U.S. is only sampling 2.5 - 5.0 % of all Covid positive tests for genomic sequencing analysis.
- What's the next group for distraction...you want the names of Police Officers that's been reinfected or what about the names of University mascots that's been reinfected with Covid.
They were the same idiots that didn't know anything about genomic sequencing that verifies reinfection.
It's a stupid argument when everybody can admit that Reinfection does in fact occur regardless of whether we know someone by name, sport, or U.S. politician.
- Guess what, we now know that Maryland has 24,800 reinfections...try to guess which U.S. state has more ?
Thank you...finally, you're acknowledging the flaw in only looking at only the raw numbers for comparisons.
Yet, Maryland gives much better data than that about each group of reinfections versus breakthrough infections.
wrbtrader
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That's the issue that you continue to ignore...
We know for a fact that there are Covid Breakthrough Infections and we stated it's all (reinfection, breakthrough infections are undercounted) but you guys keep ignoring the fact or "not acknowledging the fact" that there are Reinfections.
In fact, you continue mentioning you want the names of politicians, athletes that have been reinfected, and its another way to say that you believe there are so few as in its that's rare when in fact its due to the United States not having the ability to genomic sequence the Covid positive tests that would find reinfections...to be exact...the U.S. is only sampling 2.5 - 5.0 % of all Covid positive tests.
It's a recent argument that GWB made in the other threads about Reinfections that others stated in their opinion reinfections nor only were not occurring...they stated it didn't exist.
They were the same idiots that didn't know anything about genomic sequencing that verifies reinfection.
It's a stupid argument when everybody can admit that Reinfection does in fact occur regardless of whether we know someone by name, sport, or U.S. politician.
- Guess what, we now know that Maryland has 24,800 reinfections...try to guess which U.S. state has more ?
Thank you...finally, you're acknowledging the flaw in only looking at only the raw numbers for comparisons.
Yet, Maryland gives much better data than that about each group of reinfections versus breakthrough infections.
wrbtrader
I never once said there were no reinfections but as your own Maryland data shows 10x's more vaccinated people got covid than people who got covid twice.
Thread title says "Unvaccinated 5 times more likely to get Omicron"
But wrbtrader Maryland data shows 10x's more vaccinated people got covid than people who got covid twice.
While unvaccinated without prior infection is 5 times more likely to get Omicron is likely true unvaccinated with prior infection is likely not.
But wrbtrader Maryland data shows 10x's more vaccinated people got covid than people who got covid twice.
While unvaccinated without prior infection is 5 times more likely to get Omicron is likely true unvaccinated with prior infection is likely not.
It's what you've been implying by requesting names in your debates with GWB when in fact GWB is stating... there are a lot more reinfections out there than you know about.
Actually, more than he and I know about considering I know for a fact that only 2.5 - 5.0% of the Covid positive tests are genomically sequenced for analysis in the United States of America.
As stated Covid Breakthrough Infections are also undercounted but nowhere near as much as the Reinfections because of the simple fact that it's much easier to document a breakthrough infection than reinfection.
In reality, the issue is not about Reinfections... it's all about Super Immunity.
wrbtrader