If every single person was required to publicly disclose each time they got Covid then maybe you could have a data set that was slightly meaningful albeit small. Without this type of disclosure the exercise you endeavor to launch is meaningless.
Unvaccinated 5 times more likely to get Omicron
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If every single person was required to publicly disclose each time they got Covid then maybe you could have a data set that was slightly meaningful albeit small. Without this type of disclosure the exercise you endeavor to launch is meaningless.
In The US Congress I found around 125 who tested positive for covid,3 who tested positive for reinfection.
Over 125 members of Congress announced they had covid.Only 3 announced they had it twice.
And what percentage was vaccinated?
And while you are at it -- why don't you look at all the unvaccinated GOP politicians who died from Covid.
So in Congress 100% of Democrats are vaccinated. But half of Republicans won't say it they are vaccinated (hint: this means they are not).
Bingo...
That's exactly the point I wanted to make in my prior reply that when it comes to Politics...many Republicans do not disclose their vaccination status nor do they disclose if they've been infected or reinfected.
- It's private info as it should be and those that do disclose it...good for them.
Regardless, I prefer hospitalization data of reinfections in the general population...less secretive although the hospitals don't give out any names for privacy reasons.
Here's the Covid Reinfection data in Québec.
Yeah, its still rare within their statistical group but reinfections are obviously increasing dramatically because of Omicron as shown in almost every country that does a good job in genomic sequencing their Covid positive tests to look for reinfections.
Also, as countries, provinces, and states traverse from a Pandemic to an Endemic...they will begin to document more reinfection data to show that the reinfections are mild to help verified eliminating the Pandemic status...
Thus, no longer a health crisis.
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My mistake,I didnt read the full fact check article.They were in fact fact checking the 100% claim.
USA today says 81% of Congress are vaccinated.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ed-politicians-doctors-little-off/5670809001/
81% of Congress is vaccinated.This year alone around 35 tested positive,2 were were reinfected.
I could be more specific and limit it to the 100% vaccinated democrats but I don't feel like looking up who on this list is democrat and who is republican.
Let's take a look at the latest studies on the unvaccinated getting reinfected. It is not twice as likely but 5 times as likely.
Another important word in the article title is "survivors" -- with a Covid CFR rate of over 2% for the unvaccinated a meaningful portion of the unvaccinated take themselves out of the pool for reinfection.
Unvaccinated COVID-19 survivors 5 times more likely to get reinfected
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2022/02/17/COVID-19-vaccination-reinfection/7821645118063/
After you have recovered from COVID-19, getting at least one dose of a vaccine provides added protection against reinfection, Israeli researchers report.
Stay unvaccinated after a bout with COVID-19 and you're five times more likely than someone who has had the shot to get COVID-19 again, the new study found. That's because the immunity acquired through an infection is short-lived.
"It's very good for three months, and may well be good for a lot longer, but it's not permanent," said infectious disease expert Dr. Bruce Farber of Northwell Health in Manhasset, N.Y., who reviewed the findings.
It's unrealistic to think that having the virus would provide permanent immunity, he said.
"That's not what you see with influenza. That's not what you see with regular coronaviruses. That's not what we see with rhinoviruses. People get infected with them over and over again. And I think that will be the case here," Farber said.
Many patients think that because they have antibodies from having COVID-19, they don't need the vaccine, he said.
"That's happening increasingly often now," Farber said. "What I say to them is: You know, you're right, there is some immunity from having had COVID, but you can prolong that immunity and reinforce that immunity with a booster."
Farber predicts people will need a yearly COVID-19 shot. Right now, the infection rate is waning, but more virus variants are likely to arise, he noted.
"We can relax now, but we may need to re-evaluate that if the community rates rise," Farber added.
For the study, a team led by Ronen Arbel of Clalit Health Services in Tel Aviv collected data on more than 149,000 patients in Israel. All had recovered from COVID-19 and had not been previously vaccinated.
More than 83,000 of them were vaccinated after recovery. Of those, 354 got COVID-19 again, compared with 2,168 who remained unvaccinated, the findings showed.
That works out to about two reinfections per 100,000 among vaccinated patients compared to 10 per 100,000 among the unvaccinated.
These data were based on the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, which was 82% effective among 16- to 64-year-olds, and 60% effective among older people.
Its effectiveness was the same whether patients received one or two doses, the researchers noted. That finding supported evidence from earlier studies that found one dose was plenty to protect against reinfection.
Dr. Marc Siegel is a clinical professor of medicine at NYU Langone Medical Center in New York City.
Siegel, an infectious disease expert who had no part in the new study, said, "People who have had COVID should get the vaccine. How many doses they get has to do with their doctor and their situation."
But, he advised, everyone should get at least one dose.
"I can't think of a reason not to do that," Siegel said.
"This is a great shot," he added. "This is a pandemic and it's a miracle we have this vaccine. The vaccine works. The immunity you get from it is important and getting it on top of recovery is a good strategy."
The findings were published online Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine.
Another important word in the article title is "survivors" -- with a Covid CFR rate of over 2% for the unvaccinated a meaningful portion of the unvaccinated take themselves out of the pool for reinfection.
Unvaccinated COVID-19 survivors 5 times more likely to get reinfected
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2022/02/17/COVID-19-vaccination-reinfection/7821645118063/
After you have recovered from COVID-19, getting at least one dose of a vaccine provides added protection against reinfection, Israeli researchers report.
Stay unvaccinated after a bout with COVID-19 and you're five times more likely than someone who has had the shot to get COVID-19 again, the new study found. That's because the immunity acquired through an infection is short-lived.
"It's very good for three months, and may well be good for a lot longer, but it's not permanent," said infectious disease expert Dr. Bruce Farber of Northwell Health in Manhasset, N.Y., who reviewed the findings.
It's unrealistic to think that having the virus would provide permanent immunity, he said.
"That's not what you see with influenza. That's not what you see with regular coronaviruses. That's not what we see with rhinoviruses. People get infected with them over and over again. And I think that will be the case here," Farber said.
Many patients think that because they have antibodies from having COVID-19, they don't need the vaccine, he said.
"That's happening increasingly often now," Farber said. "What I say to them is: You know, you're right, there is some immunity from having had COVID, but you can prolong that immunity and reinforce that immunity with a booster."
Farber predicts people will need a yearly COVID-19 shot. Right now, the infection rate is waning, but more virus variants are likely to arise, he noted.
"We can relax now, but we may need to re-evaluate that if the community rates rise," Farber added.
For the study, a team led by Ronen Arbel of Clalit Health Services in Tel Aviv collected data on more than 149,000 patients in Israel. All had recovered from COVID-19 and had not been previously vaccinated.
More than 83,000 of them were vaccinated after recovery. Of those, 354 got COVID-19 again, compared with 2,168 who remained unvaccinated, the findings showed.
That works out to about two reinfections per 100,000 among vaccinated patients compared to 10 per 100,000 among the unvaccinated.
These data were based on the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, which was 82% effective among 16- to 64-year-olds, and 60% effective among older people.
Its effectiveness was the same whether patients received one or two doses, the researchers noted. That finding supported evidence from earlier studies that found one dose was plenty to protect against reinfection.
Dr. Marc Siegel is a clinical professor of medicine at NYU Langone Medical Center in New York City.
Siegel, an infectious disease expert who had no part in the new study, said, "People who have had COVID should get the vaccine. How many doses they get has to do with their doctor and their situation."
But, he advised, everyone should get at least one dose.
"I can't think of a reason not to do that," Siegel said.
"This is a great shot," he added. "This is a pandemic and it's a miracle we have this vaccine. The vaccine works. The immunity you get from it is important and getting it on top of recovery is a good strategy."
The findings were published online Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine.
I prefer to look at the real world.I can see the members of congress who got covid and who got it twice.I cant see all these un named people from these million studies with results all over the place.