Unvaccinated 5 times more likely to get Omicron

Tony Stark said:
Thats why I also compared 8700 people and 217,000 covid tests from The NFL.
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That's my point, you're only looking at the raw data because you do not have access to the Infection Disease data of the NFL...neither do I. :D

For example, what's the rate of recovery, what's the rate of any hospitalization, what's the rate of any ICU admission, what's the rate of all of this within each age group, and so on...

That's how Infectious Disease people analyze the data to determine public health policy and determine the effectiveness of a vaccine. That's the reason why I gave you the link...it gets into the real data beyond the raw data of a city called Ottawa...the latter is what most people mistakingly debate about (the raw data).

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wrbtrader said:
That's my point, you're only looking at the raw data because you do not have access to the Infection Disease data of the NFL...neither do I. :D

For example, what's the rate of recovery, what's the rate of any hospitalization, what's the rate of any ICU admission, what's the rate of all of this within each age group, and so on...

That's how Infectious Disease people analyze the data to determine public health policy and determine the effectiveness of a vaccine. That's the reason why I gave you the link...it gets into the real data beyond the raw data of a city called Ottawa...the latter is what most people mistakingly debate about (the raw data).

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When you look at any of the re-infection studies from the U.S., U.K. or Europe with broad amounts of data -- the conclusions are all the same. You are much more likely to be re-infected if you are unvaccinated rather than when you are vaccinated.

Unvaccinated individuals twice as likely to face COVID-19 reinfection: CDC study
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...o-face-covid-19-reinfection-cdc-study.360728/

A new Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) study found that unvaccinated individuals who have had COVID-19 are twice as likely to face reinfection as individuals who have received the vaccine.

The study, published as part of the agency's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), examined hundreds of residents, finding that the unvaccinated individuals had 2.34 times greater odds of reinfection compared with fully vaccinated individuals.

(More at above url)
 
gwb-trading said:
When you look at any of the re-infection studies from the U.S., U.K. or Europe with broad amounts of data -- the conclusions are all the same. You are much more likely to be re-infected if you are unvaccinated rather than when you are vaccinated.

Unvaccinated individuals twice as likely to face COVID-19 reinfection: CDC study
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...o-face-covid-19-reinfection-cdc-study.360728/

A new Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) study found that unvaccinated individuals who have had COVID-19 are twice as likely to face reinfection as individuals who have received the vaccine.

The study, published as part of the agency's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), examined hundreds of residents, finding that the unvaccinated individuals had 2.34 times greater odds of reinfection compared with fully vaccinated individuals.

(More at above url)
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When you look at real world results its much different which is why so far out of all the athletes in the world you have so far only found 5 that has officailly tested positive twice while in 1 single sport in The US there is 1800 vaccinated who tested positive.
 
Tony Stark said:
How many people do you personally know or know of who got covid twice and how many do you know who are vaccinated and got covid?
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Well how many people do you personally know who are vaccinated versus unvaccinated. Nearly everyone I personally know is vaccinated since I don’t associate with irrational individuals in my personal life.

Since nearly everyone I personally know is vaccinated — this means means I know more people who are vaccinated who got Covid then unvaccinated & got Covid twice.

This does not change in any way the reality of large scale studies which show the unvaccinated are more than twice as likely to get Covid twice over the vaccinated catching Covid.
 
Tony Stark said:
How many people do you personally know or know of who got covid twice and how many do you know who are vaccinated and got covid?
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I don't really do statistics based on anecdote (which are likely to introduce bias). Having said that, I only know of one case of infection while vaxxed (JJ vax/Omicron timing). I know of no other cases from my circle among the immunized. My circle doesn't really include many unvaxxed due to political slant of said peeps, I really couldn't trust their anecdote in any case (reluctance to get tested, minimization of illness, etc).
 
gwb-trading said:
This does not change in any way the reality of large scale studies which show the unvaccinated are more than twice as likely to get Covid twice over the vaccinated catching Covid.
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In a real world study of Americas richest sport with 8700 people and 217,000 covid test so far you can only find 1 who tested positive twice but 1800 vaccinated who tested positive.
 
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Cuddles said:
I don't really do statistics based on anecdote (which are likely to introduce bias).
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You are making it way more complicated than it is.How many people do you personally know or know of who has gotten covid twice?
 
gwb-trading said:
Well how many people do you personally know who are vaccinated versus unvaccinated. Nearly everyone I personally know is vaccinated since I don’t associate with irrational individuals in my personal life.

Since nearly everyone I personally know is vaccinated — this means means I know more people who are vaccinated who got Covid then unvaccinated & got Covid twice.
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Most people I know is vaccinated.Most of the ones aren't already had covid before the vaccine was available.They are not getting vaccinated because they don't personally see others getting covid twice.They do however see many who are vaccinated still get covid.
 
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