United Nations Security Council and Venezuela.

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September 20, 2006

SouthAmerica: Hugo Chavez calls Bush the `Devil' in UN speech, and world leaders and diplomats in the hall applauded his remarks.

I understand 100 percent why world leaders feel that way towards George W. Bush and his administration.

The people from around the world are smart enough to be able to understand the difference between hating America and hating the Bush administration.

There is a good side to this mess – today the American people and the world for that matter, can appreciate a lot more and recognize what a great president former US President Bill Clinton was; when we compare him with a “world class Jackass” such as George W. Bush.

But there is hope: in the same way the American political system can go from one of its great presidents in US history (Bill Clinton) to one of its worst (The Jackass) in a matter of one fixed election – the United States it will bounce back if another Bill Clinton can be found, and if he can win the election and become US president.


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“Venezuelan President Chavez Calls Bush the `Devil' in UN Speech”
By Bill Varner
Bloomberg News – September 20, 2006


Sept. 20 (Bloomberg) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez called President George W. Bush ``the devil'' and ``world tyrant'' in a speech to the United Nations General Assembly in which he urged the member governments to fight U.S. domination.

``The devil came here yesterday,'' Chavez, 52, said in remarks that included accusations that the U.S. is plotting to overthrow him and that the UN is helpless to combat the threat posed by U.S. power. He said the podium in the General Assembly hall still ``smells of sulphur today,'' a reference to what is termed the devil's element in mythology.

World leaders and diplomats in the hall applauded his remarks, which included an appeal to read Noam Chomsky's book, ``Hegemony or Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance.'' The U.S. had only a young note-taker in its allotted seats for the appearance by Chavez.

Chavez, whose country is the third-biggest producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, has allied himself with Cuba, Iran and other countries at odds with the U.S. and its superpower status.

``The U.S. is the ``greatest threat looking over our planet, placing at risk the very survival of the human species,'' Chavez said. ``We appeal to the people of the U.S. to halt this threat, like a sword hanging over our heads.''

He said it would take a psychiatrist to analyze Bush's speech to the General Assembly yesterday, and that his ambitions for world domination would make an ``Alfred Hitchcock movie'' that he said could be titled ``The Devil's Recipe.''

`Sees Extremists'

``Everywhere he looks he sees extremists and you, my brother, he looks at your color and says there is an extremist,'' Chavez said of Bush. ``But it is not that we are extremists. The world is waking up and people are standing up.''

While saying that the UN system is ``collapsing,'' Chavez appealed for help in electing Venezuela to a two-year term on the Security Council next month. The U.S. has opposed Venezuela's bid for seat.

Chavez backed the idea of permanent seats for developing countries on the Security Council, which is run by the victors of World War II: China, Russia, Britain, France and the U.S.


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Hapaboy: Also, SA, were you an extra in "Scarface"?

SouthAmerica: No I was not an extra in Scarface.

But if I were that would have served as a big lesson in economics regarding one of the most profitable businesses in the United States on a regular basis. The United States has the largest market for junkies in the world – more than any other country in the world.
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Yeah, and when we bust them they are processed in courts of law, unlike your country where the police wear masks, go into the slums, and shoot children living in the streets, dealers, junkies, and random passersby indiscriminately.

Brazil, what a joke of "justice"!!
 
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Hapaboy: Yeah, and when we bust them they are processed in courts of law, unlike your country where the police wear masks, go into the slums, and shoot children living in the streets, dealers, junkies, and random passersby indiscriminately.

Brazil, what a joke of "justice"!!


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September 21, 2006

SouthAmerica: If we had justice in Brazil – we would be getting rid off all the gangs and criminals in Sao Paulo, Rio and so on….

The Brazilian population deserves to live in peace and not being afraid of these gangs of criminals that are becoming a complete non-sense in Brazil.



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Hapaboy: Yeah, and when we bust them they are processed in courts of law, unlike your country where the police wear masks, go into the slums, and shoot children living in the streets, dealers, junkies, and random passersby indiscriminately.

Brazil, what a joke of "justice"!!


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September 21, 2006

SouthAmerica: If we had justice in Brazil – we would be getting rid off all the gangs and criminals in Sao Paulo, Rio and so on….

The Brazilian population deserves to live in peace and not being afraid of these gangs of criminals that are becoming a complete non-sense in Brazil.
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So you are in favor of police acting as vigilantes and shooting people in the slums without any process of law. Interesting...
 
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September 21, 2006

SouthAmerica: According to the CNN report: "Hugo Chavez abused the privilege that he had speaking at the United Nations," Pelosi said. (House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California)


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I believe that Nancy Pelosi is wrong on that one. It is my understanding it is a “right” that foreign head of state have in coming to the United Nations for the annual meeting – for the countries that are members of the United Nations. It is a right, and not a privilege according to rules that does regulate that international organization.



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“Democrats warn Chavez: Don't bash Bush”
CNN News - September 21, 2006


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Two of President Bush's staunchest domestic critics leapt to his defense Thursday, a day after one of his fiercest foreign foes called him "the devil" in a scorching speech before the United Nations.

"You don't come into my country; you don't come into my congressional district and you don't condemn my president," Rep. Charles Rangel, D-New York, scolded Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, was blunt in her criticism of the Venezuelan leader. "He is an everyday thug," she said.

… During his speech before the U.N. General Assembly on Wednesday, Chavez launched into a caustic verbal attack of Bush that shocked diplomats and observers accustomed to the staid verbiage of international diplomacy.

"The devil came here yesterday," Chavez said, referring to Bush, who addressed the world body during its annual meeting Tuesday. "And it smells of sulfur still today."

Chavez accused Bush of having spoken "as if he owned the world" when the U.S. president addressed the world body on Tuesday.

… Bush's domestic foes fumed Thursday.

"If there's any criticism of President Bush, it should be restricted to Americans, whether they voted for him or not," Rangel said at a Washington news conference.

"I just want to make it abundantly clear to Hugo Chavez or any other president: Don't come to the United States and think, because we have problems with our president, that any foreigner can come to our country and not think that Americans do not feel offended when you offend our chief of state," Rangel said.

"Hugo Chavez abused the privilege that he had speaking at the United Nations," Pelosi said. "In doing so, in the manner which he characterized the president, he demeaned himself and demeaned Venezuela."

… As he was exiting the U.N. building in New York, Chavez told reporters that Bush is not a legitimate president because he "stole the elections."

"He is, therefore, a dictator," Chavez said.

During a stop in Harlem on Thursday, Chavez said he has no quarrel with the American people.

"We are friends of yours, and you are our friends," he said.

Underscoring his point, he announced he is expanding his heating-oil program to help impoverished Americans from 40 million gallons last year to 100 million gallons this year, and from 180,000 families to 459,000 families.

But in the heart of Rangel's congressional district, he blasted away at Bush for a second day.

"He walks like this cowboy John Wayne," said Chavez. "He doesn't have the slightest idea of politics. He got where he is because he is the son of his father. He was an alcoholic, an ex-alcoholic. He's a sick man, full of complexes, but very dangerous now because he has a lot of power."

… On the United States, rich people are getting richer, and poor people are getting poorer, he said. "That's not a democracy; that's a tyranny."



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Hapaboy: So you are in favor of police acting as vigilantes and shooting people in the slums without any process of law. Interesting...


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September 21, 2006

SouthAmerica: That is the only way to deal with the criminal gangs and the drug dealers in Brazil.

Putting these criminals in jail it does not resolve anything, other than cost a lot of money to Brazilian taxpayers. (money that can be better spent elsewhere.)

Anyway, in Brazil these drug gang leaders are creating havoc to the rest of the Brazilian population, and they continue their reign of terror in the Brazilian major cities by giving orders to their people from inside the Brazilian prison system .


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Hapaboy: So you are in favor of police acting as vigilantes and shooting people in the slums without any process of law. Interesting...


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September 21, 2006

SouthAmerica: That is the only way to deal with the criminal gangs and the drug dealers in Brazil.

Putting these criminals in jail it does not resolve anything, other than cost a lot of money to Brazilian taxpayers. (money that can be better spent elsewhere.)

Anyway, in Brazil these drug gang leaders are creating havoc to the rest of the Brazilian population, and they continue their reign of terror in the Brazilian major cities by giving orders to their people from inside the Brazilian prison system .
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Execution without process of law.

No trial, just go into the slums and shoot people.

Then you support tyranny.

Do you understand that you are applauding the very thing your hero Chavez is claiming the US to be?
 
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September 21, 2006

SouthAmerica: Reply to Hapaboy

I don’t expect you to understand what I am saying about the criminal drug gangs in Brazil.

But you would have a better understanding if you and your family were living in Sao Paulo and in Rio de Janeiro.

Nobody is in favor of any kind of tyranny. But when you have to protect your own family from these criminals who don’t think twice about killing you and your entire family then it is another story.

We are not taking here about getting rid off people because they have a different political or religious point of view – we are talking about getting rid off of the worst kind of people that any society can have – most of them are real pieces of garbage and they have no other goal or objective other than prey on everybody else in the population. Most of them would not think twice in harming your family and killing them if they felt like and just for the fun of it.

Today, these criminal gangs understanding of "process of law" is: if you see a policeman you can use him for target practice.



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September 21, 2006

SouthAmerica: Reply to Hapaboy

I don’t expect you to understand what I am saying about the criminal drug gangs in Brazil.

But you would have a better understanding if you and your family were living in Sao Paulo and in Rio de Janeiro.

Nobody is in favor of any kind of tyranny. But when you have to protect your own family from these criminals who don’t think twice about killing you and your entire family then it is another story.

We are not taking here about getting rid off people because they have a different political or religious point of view – we are talking about getting rid off of the worst kind of people that any society can have – most of them are real pieces of garbage and they have no other goal or objective other than prey on everybody else in the population. Most of them would not think twice in harming your family and killing them if they felt like and just for the fun of it.

Today, these criminal gangs understanding of "process of law" is: if you see a policeman you can use him for target practice.
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Not an excuse at all.

If they are criminals, arrest them, try them, and then execute them is such is the law of the land.

Believe me, I have no problem executing vicious criminals, but, as citizens, they should be allowed to exercise the right to have a defense and their case presented in a court of law.

Again, this is tyranny, the kind Chavez, in his imbecilic point of view, accuses the US of having.
 
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