I am glad to see there is still some Free Speech left in this world.
Unhinged Anti-Vaxxers
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I am glad to see there is still some Free Speech left in this world.
Especially among white supremacists and neo-nazis, evidently. Makes you feel warm all over, no doubt.
So, you are against Free Speech unless you agree with it. Please go to Rumble and come back with a White Supremist or Nazi video. I doubt if you can find one at Rumble.
No thanks. You're the one evidently looking for like-minded companionship.
You failed.
Anti-Vaxxers Are Staking Everything on a Police Investigation That Doesn’t Exist
Efforts to stop the UK vaccine rollout based on a crime reference number are failing, leading to frustration and threats of more direct action. “It’s incredibly dangerous,” a misinformation expert told VICE World News.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dgwba/anti-vax-crime-number-covid
The UK’s increasingly radical anti-vax, corona-denying movement has pinned its hopes on a new strategy for stopping the government’s vaccine rollout: a police investigation that they believe will find that the COVID jab programme amounts to a massive crime against the public.
But for all their efforts so far in 2021 to advance the investigation – widely publicising the case’s crime reference number (CRN) “6029679/21,” and submitting to police boxes of “evidence” supposedly documenting the vaccine rollout’s criminality – their campaign has faced one fairly significant hurdle. Police say that there is no investigation taking place, and the CRN refers merely to the fact that anti-vaxxers have filed a complaint.
READ: Anti-vaxxers think a 9-digit code shows COVID jabs are criminal. It doesn’t
Now, the understandable lack of police progress in advancing this non-existent investigation is fuelling frustration within the COVID-conspiracy scene, pushing the movement in potentially dangerous directions, experts say. Anti-vaxxers are carrying out a series of direct action protests intended to pressure the police into advancing the case, while more radical voices in COVID conspiracy Telegram groups are calling for ex-cops and military veterans to form a unit to “arrest the people committing the crimes” – whoever that means.
“The police are corrupt. The whole fucking system is satanic and evil to the core,” wrote one user in a Telegram group dedicated to advancing the supposed COVID vaccine investigation last month, calling for veterans and former cops to “assemble a unit.”
“It’s time we take things into our own hands.”
For experts monitoring the COVID conspiracy movement, the expressions of growing desperation and increasingly strident calls for action are a serious concern.
“It’s incredibly dangerous,” said Ciaran O’Connor, an analyst at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue who monitors COVID misinformation. He pointed out that the calls to recruit veterans to carry out so-called “common law arrests” came in the wake of militant anti-vaxxers forming a direct action group called Alpha Men Assemble, which includes former soldiers in its ranks and had carried out combat training drills.
“It shows that these online extremist conversations have potentially dangerous offline consequences, especially if people with military knowledge become involved,” he said. “It’s all a dangerous recipe.”
READ: Anti-vax conspiracy theorists hold combat training sessions in UK
In recent weeks, say experts, the mounting frustrations within the COVID conspiracy scene over the lack of progress in the supposed police investigation have been increasingly visible.
“The expectation that something is going to happen – but nothing does – is leading to frustration,” said O’Connor. He said the UK COVID conspiracy movement had strong echoes of the QAnon cult, with its key influencers engaged in “continuous narrative formation” to account for their lack of results.
A recent statement on Telegram, purportedly from one of the men who laid the original police complaint and has promoted it as the great hope of COVID conspiracy movement, bemoaned the doubters questioning whether the investigation was even happenfdanging, and made an apparently veiled threat towards officers who failed to advance the case.
“If the police have been ordered by other police not to investigate crime, especially these serious crimes, they are perverting the course of justice and will be held to account for their decision making,” read the message.
In other signs of growing impatience with police, anti-vaxxers have been circulating an email address where the names and ID numbers of officers who don’t assist the supposed investigation can be “reported,” with the implication that they will eventually face unspecified repercussions.
Other efforts have focused on trying to pressure the police into advancing the non-existent investigation through direct action protests. On Wednesday, a group of protesters, including high-profile activist Piers Corbyn, carried out an “Evidence Dump” in central London, intended to demonstrate their overwhelming proof for the criminality of the COVID vaccination drive, gathering outside New Scotland Yard, where they faced off against a line of police officers behind a barricade.
“We demand answers!” a protester yelled, before the crowd broke into chants of “Save our children!” and “Do your job!”
On Saturday, another protest is planned outside London’s Hammersmith police station, where activists laid the original police complaint, demanding a clarification and update on the supposed investigation.
(More about these anti-vax idiots living in a fantasy world at above url)
Efforts to stop the UK vaccine rollout based on a crime reference number are failing, leading to frustration and threats of more direct action. “It’s incredibly dangerous,” a misinformation expert told VICE World News.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dgwba/anti-vax-crime-number-covid
The UK’s increasingly radical anti-vax, corona-denying movement has pinned its hopes on a new strategy for stopping the government’s vaccine rollout: a police investigation that they believe will find that the COVID jab programme amounts to a massive crime against the public.
But for all their efforts so far in 2021 to advance the investigation – widely publicising the case’s crime reference number (CRN) “6029679/21,” and submitting to police boxes of “evidence” supposedly documenting the vaccine rollout’s criminality – their campaign has faced one fairly significant hurdle. Police say that there is no investigation taking place, and the CRN refers merely to the fact that anti-vaxxers have filed a complaint.
READ: Anti-vaxxers think a 9-digit code shows COVID jabs are criminal. It doesn’t
Now, the understandable lack of police progress in advancing this non-existent investigation is fuelling frustration within the COVID-conspiracy scene, pushing the movement in potentially dangerous directions, experts say. Anti-vaxxers are carrying out a series of direct action protests intended to pressure the police into advancing the case, while more radical voices in COVID conspiracy Telegram groups are calling for ex-cops and military veterans to form a unit to “arrest the people committing the crimes” – whoever that means.
“The police are corrupt. The whole fucking system is satanic and evil to the core,” wrote one user in a Telegram group dedicated to advancing the supposed COVID vaccine investigation last month, calling for veterans and former cops to “assemble a unit.”
“It’s time we take things into our own hands.”
For experts monitoring the COVID conspiracy movement, the expressions of growing desperation and increasingly strident calls for action are a serious concern.
“It’s incredibly dangerous,” said Ciaran O’Connor, an analyst at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue who monitors COVID misinformation. He pointed out that the calls to recruit veterans to carry out so-called “common law arrests” came in the wake of militant anti-vaxxers forming a direct action group called Alpha Men Assemble, which includes former soldiers in its ranks and had carried out combat training drills.
“It shows that these online extremist conversations have potentially dangerous offline consequences, especially if people with military knowledge become involved,” he said. “It’s all a dangerous recipe.”
READ: Anti-vax conspiracy theorists hold combat training sessions in UK
In recent weeks, say experts, the mounting frustrations within the COVID conspiracy scene over the lack of progress in the supposed police investigation have been increasingly visible.
“The expectation that something is going to happen – but nothing does – is leading to frustration,” said O’Connor. He said the UK COVID conspiracy movement had strong echoes of the QAnon cult, with its key influencers engaged in “continuous narrative formation” to account for their lack of results.
A recent statement on Telegram, purportedly from one of the men who laid the original police complaint and has promoted it as the great hope of COVID conspiracy movement, bemoaned the doubters questioning whether the investigation was even happenfdanging, and made an apparently veiled threat towards officers who failed to advance the case.
“If the police have been ordered by other police not to investigate crime, especially these serious crimes, they are perverting the course of justice and will be held to account for their decision making,” read the message.
In other signs of growing impatience with police, anti-vaxxers have been circulating an email address where the names and ID numbers of officers who don’t assist the supposed investigation can be “reported,” with the implication that they will eventually face unspecified repercussions.
Other efforts have focused on trying to pressure the police into advancing the non-existent investigation through direct action protests. On Wednesday, a group of protesters, including high-profile activist Piers Corbyn, carried out an “Evidence Dump” in central London, intended to demonstrate their overwhelming proof for the criminality of the COVID vaccination drive, gathering outside New Scotland Yard, where they faced off against a line of police officers behind a barricade.
“We demand answers!” a protester yelled, before the crowd broke into chants of “Save our children!” and “Do your job!”
On Saturday, another protest is planned outside London’s Hammersmith police station, where activists laid the original police complaint, demanding a clarification and update on the supposed investigation.
(More about these anti-vax idiots living in a fantasy world at above url)
We have regularly seen anti-vaxxers completely misrepresenting data from the U.K. Now the government will put a stop to this nonsense by not providing raw weekly data but proper reports with context on longer timeframes.
Anti-vaxxer concerns force removal of deaths by vaccine status data from Public Health Scotland reports
Public Health Scotland will stop publishing data on Covid deaths and hospitalisations by vaccination status due to concerns the data is being wilfully misrepresented by anti-vaccination campaigners.
https://www.scotsman.com/health/cor...oval-of-deaths-by-vaccine-status-data-3571856
The public health watchdog announced the change in policy on Wednesday in its most recent Covid-19 statistical report, saying the frequency and content of the data would be reviewed.
Instead, officials will focus on publishing more robust and complex vaccine effectiveness data.
Significant concerns about the data being misused deliberately by anti-vaccination campaigners is behind the move, PHS officials told The Scotsman.
The report published on Wednesday will be the last weekly publication to include the data which includes information on Covid-19 infection rates among the vaccinated and unvaccinated, as well as hospitalisation and death rates, broken down by the number of doses received.
Officials said that two central issues relating to the unvaccinated population and testing habits meant the data was no longer reliable or robust and open for misinterpretation without adequate context.
This is due to the fact that the population data used for the unvaccinated population is based on GP registration details, meaning it includes thousands of individuals who are registered but may no longer live in Scotland or simply failed to deregister.
As the vaccinated population grows, this flaw in the data becomes more pronounced due to the true number of unvaccinated people being much lower than the number used, making the final published data less reliable.
Vaccinated people are also more likely to report the results of lateral flow tests, further skewing the data due to changes in how a test result is formally recorded with individuals no longer needing a PCR test to confirm infection.
One PHS official said that focusing on vaccine effectiveness rather than the existing “very simple statistics” would result in “much more robust” data for the public.
They said: “The main important point around all of the analysis is we understand whether the vaccines are working against catching it and against getting severe Covid, and that’s where the vaccine effectiveness studies come in which are a completely different methodology.
"The case rates, hospitalisation rates, the death rates are very simple statistics, whereas for the vaccine effectiveness studies we use modelling, we compare people who have tested negative to those who have tested positive and match them on their underlining co-morbidities.
"It’s a completely different method which is much more robust and that’s what we want people to focus on.”
The data has been promoted on social media by individuals including The Spectator’s associate editor Toby Young, the American right-wing opinion website, The Blaze, and anti-vaxxer American talking head Alex Berenson.
The PHS official added: “What is happening is people are looking at those simple data and trying to make inferences about the vaccination, whether the vaccines work, inappropriately and sometimes wilfully.
"There are so many caveats and they just pull certain figures out that should not be used.
"What we are going to do is do a lot more on the vaccine effectiveness side and try and make people understand how effective the vaccine is.
“For example we know it is 50 per cent effective against getting infected, but that it is much higher effectiveness against hospitalisations and deaths which is the key thing really as that’s what we want to prevent.”
Anti-vaxxer concerns force removal of deaths by vaccine status data from Public Health Scotland reports
Public Health Scotland will stop publishing data on Covid deaths and hospitalisations by vaccination status due to concerns the data is being wilfully misrepresented by anti-vaccination campaigners.
https://www.scotsman.com/health/cor...oval-of-deaths-by-vaccine-status-data-3571856
The public health watchdog announced the change in policy on Wednesday in its most recent Covid-19 statistical report, saying the frequency and content of the data would be reviewed.
Instead, officials will focus on publishing more robust and complex vaccine effectiveness data.
Significant concerns about the data being misused deliberately by anti-vaccination campaigners is behind the move, PHS officials told The Scotsman.
The report published on Wednesday will be the last weekly publication to include the data which includes information on Covid-19 infection rates among the vaccinated and unvaccinated, as well as hospitalisation and death rates, broken down by the number of doses received.
Officials said that two central issues relating to the unvaccinated population and testing habits meant the data was no longer reliable or robust and open for misinterpretation without adequate context.
This is due to the fact that the population data used for the unvaccinated population is based on GP registration details, meaning it includes thousands of individuals who are registered but may no longer live in Scotland or simply failed to deregister.
As the vaccinated population grows, this flaw in the data becomes more pronounced due to the true number of unvaccinated people being much lower than the number used, making the final published data less reliable.
Vaccinated people are also more likely to report the results of lateral flow tests, further skewing the data due to changes in how a test result is formally recorded with individuals no longer needing a PCR test to confirm infection.
One PHS official said that focusing on vaccine effectiveness rather than the existing “very simple statistics” would result in “much more robust” data for the public.
They said: “The main important point around all of the analysis is we understand whether the vaccines are working against catching it and against getting severe Covid, and that’s where the vaccine effectiveness studies come in which are a completely different methodology.
"The case rates, hospitalisation rates, the death rates are very simple statistics, whereas for the vaccine effectiveness studies we use modelling, we compare people who have tested negative to those who have tested positive and match them on their underlining co-morbidities.
"It’s a completely different method which is much more robust and that’s what we want people to focus on.”
The data has been promoted on social media by individuals including The Spectator’s associate editor Toby Young, the American right-wing opinion website, The Blaze, and anti-vaxxer American talking head Alex Berenson.
The PHS official added: “What is happening is people are looking at those simple data and trying to make inferences about the vaccination, whether the vaccines work, inappropriately and sometimes wilfully.
"There are so many caveats and they just pull certain figures out that should not be used.
"What we are going to do is do a lot more on the vaccine effectiveness side and try and make people understand how effective the vaccine is.
“For example we know it is 50 per cent effective against getting infected, but that it is much higher effectiveness against hospitalisations and deaths which is the key thing really as that’s what we want to prevent.”
No more raw data. They are acting like the Chinese and hiding the data.
Anti-Vaxxers Have a New Obsession: Keeping Your Kids From Seeing Their Doctors
Developmental milestones are their line of attack.
https://www.motherjones.com/politic...-keeping-your-kids-from-seeing-their-doctors/
Developmental milestones are their line of attack.
https://www.motherjones.com/politic...-keeping-your-kids-from-seeing-their-doctors/
They need to quit hiding the data.