Unhinged Anti-Vaxxers

PintoFire said:
Is this a new suppression tactic to immediately discredit people and information in the hopes that others will disregard the information?
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Tsing Tao said:
New? GWB's go to is to immediately discredit anyone and everyone that doesn't chant the religion with regularity.

He doesn't attack data, or information. Just people. Slander and discredit.
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Most of "America's Frontline Doctors" have not treated a patient for years. There is no evidence that a single one of them has ever treated a COVID patient.

Some sources are so discredited that no one should pay attention to the "fabrications" they put forward.
 
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gwb-trading said:
This is what happens when a new more infectious strain becomes dominant and the public health guidance changes.

Sadly this was preventable if only Trumpers would have gotten vaccinated.
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If they had gotten vaccinated, they'd have to wear masks anyway. If you're vaccinated, aren't you safe?

If you're not safe, why get vaccinated?


“I don’t know if we’ve reached the end of the scientific era.” — Dr. Martin Kulldorff, Harvard Med School epidemiologist, with a scorching analysis of the CDC’s new guidance.
 
Tsing Tao said:
If they had gotten vaccinated, they'd have to wear masks anyway. If you're vaccinated, aren't you safe?

If you're not safe, why get vaccinated?


“I don’t know if we’ve reached the end of the scientific era.” — Dr. Martin Kulldorff, Harvard Med School epidemiologist, with a scorching analysis of the CDC’s new guidance.
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Go read the Delta and other threads with the information coming out of Israel which caused the guidance to change. As expected, public health guidance will change as new information comes out about new variants which are dominant and highly infectious.
 
gwb-trading said:
Go read the Delta and other threads with the information coming out of Israel which caused the guidance to change. As expected, public health guidance will change as new information comes out about new variants which are dominant and highly infectious.
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Nah, if you're recommending it, its probably horseshit.
 
Tsing Tao said:
"We're seeing, said some doctor." No data, anectodal.



Paywall. Save us both some time and provide the source data. If its anecdotal like above, don't waste my time.



"“I talk to the doctors, and they’re treating 20-year-olds, 30-years-olds, 50-year olds,” Love explained." Same thing. Anecdotal. I talk to the doctors. Sure. No data.



Links to other articles, no data. Links to the Covid Dashboard for NC, plenty of data. I don't see any data on the age of any patients hospitalized or anything else. Happy to change my mind if you've got the demographics.




Please provide the link to the source data that backs up these numbers?



There has to be data somewhere, right? All of these articles sound suspiciously like they are parroting the same source.

Links to an ABC article that in turn links to the Florida DoH website that shows this chart:

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Looks like new cases are evenly dispersed between 15 and 64 years of age, but hospitalizations still show overwhelming 55 to 84 years. There is no evidence here of hospitals being full of younger patients due to COVID. Again, I'm just using the chart referenced in the article. If you've got better data, show it.




This in-depth study shows nothing on ages of hospitalized patients. The only thing it says is this:

In summary, we show that the Delta VOC in Scotland was found mainly in younger, more affluent groups. Risk of COVID-19 hospital admission was approximately doubled in those with the Delta VOC when compared to the Alpha VOC, with risk of admission particularly increased in those with five or more relevant comorbidities. Both the Oxford–AstraZeneca and Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccines were effective in reducing the risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 hospitalisation in people with the Delta VOC, but these effects on infection appeared to be diminished when compared to those with the Alpha VOC. We had insufficient numbers of hospital admissions to compare between vaccines in this respect.
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So Delta variant was found mainly in younger more affluent groups. Risk of hospital admission was doubled in delta versus alpha, but there's no indication as to the dispersion of age across that hospitalized group.

You know, if data on this was so easily available, why would it be so hard to get?
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A study of 38,805 cases published by Public Health England on June 11 found that after controlling for age, sex, ethnicity, and vaccination status, people infected by the delta variant had a 2.61 greater risk of being hospitalized within 14 days of infection compared with people infected by the alpha variant.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...ants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_15.pdf
 
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