Unethical Behavior on This Board

Quote from danshirley:

Oldtime:

Just how old are you???
they don't call me oldtime just because I am old. Time is a very important component to my trading.
 
Quote from danshirley:

I believe that giving direct financial advice to individuals on a chat room board is both unethical and illegal.

It is one thing to shoot the breeze with fellow knowledgeable investors , but when abviously naive individuals show up with serious financial problems the bullshitters on this board should have enough sense to pass and refer them to a legally qualified individual.

I don't believe anyone on this board holds a series 7, series 65 or has a CFA or CFP or any other designation that would qualify him to give financial advice.

Even if they did, it would be required to give the person a disclosure to read and sign before giving such advice.

That the local gurus blithly ignore these issues and spout off advice from the top of their heads is really, really reprehensible... and could shut this board down.


Oh my.... this Piker blew his cash on becoming "bonafied". 3 words...
NO ONE CARES! :cool:
 
Quote from danshirley:

..."So who gives a phuck"


The SEC.... and me

What makes you think anybody on this board CAN beat the S&P 500?? Because they say so??

And are you really so crude??

Nobody gives a shit, Shirley.

Go check out the journals section. Plenty of traders can do it, handily. Including myself. What? Are you jealous you spent 5 years of your life and 40 grand on some worthless designation that doesn't make you a dime in the market? Not to worry. Glorified hand-holders will always have a place at the table.
 
Quote from danshirley:

"The real guys signed forms not to talk or divulge any of there firms secrets out. Else they will be sued."

The SEC requires that financial advisors give clients disclosure forms that reveal the qualifications of the advisor, the corporate relationships and any conflicts of interest.

As you gain more experience and have a relationship with an IB, you will then learn how things work.

Silos are still the rule.

Employment requires licenses. Licensees require testing and passing tests and getting assigned numbers.

The government regulates licensees and employers who operate in a givien state to follow the regulations of the given state.

Personally I operate under the protection of a corporation as an independent contractor in silos where I am licensed.

As a trader my IB qualifies me under the rules of the NFA. In this silo I am an amateur. And the SEC regulates my compliance with the federal compliance rules for not cheating. Certainly the SEC and others like the IRS make a lot of enforcement mistakes and they go through the process of getting straightened out. After they learn they correct their errors with retractions. They are slow to learn.

You may be watching and observing this and that. When I post that the open on Monday (06AUG12) is going to be long and I suggest that you go long on the first bar; then I have spoken using my knowledge and skills. I am correct.

In your case, you are so myth bound that you do not know how the market works, scientifically speaking. I could test your mind and you could then find out how it deviates from being able to perform. You are thus stranded and in a place that is sub par for performing.

When I prepare for licesning tests, I know I am going to ace the tests. My instructors usually try to make a deal with me to report to them so they can learn how the testing is changing. They certainly would not charge me for their instruction.

You are kind of out of it and have a very selective picture of the whole. Many of the myths you believe are just myths that have invaded the ranks of the common people.
 
Quote from danshirley:

I believe that giving direct financial advice to individuals on a chat room board is both unethical and illegal.

It is one thing to shoot the breeze with fellow knowledgeable investors , but when abviously naive individuals show up with serious financial problems the bullshitters on this board should have enough sense to pass and refer them to a legally qualified individual.



danshirley ...... The so called "naive individual" with "serious financial problems" is down only $3100.00 on that trade with one month to expiry. No big deal.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=247044

:)
 
Dan, you frequently post trades to your COT thread. What's the difference between posting a marketable trade on your journal and "recommending" a trade? A disclaimer? Blindly offering trade advice to anon individuals on a msg board would be a violation of your license. You don't "know the client", as it were. I see no disclaimer on any of your COT thread posts.
 
If you check with a securities lawyer my lay opinion is that you will find the coversations here are covered by what is known as a publisher exemption. It's what lets trading rooms operate without registration.

Anybody here can say almost anything.

Wrapped a little tight there my man.

cheers

Jack


Quote from danshirley:

I believe that giving direct financial advice to individuals on a chat room board is both unethical and illegal.

It is one thing to shoot the breeze with fellow knowledgeable investors , but when abviously naive individuals show up with serious financial problems the bullshitters on this board should have enough sense to pass and refer them to a legally qualified individual.

I don't believe anyone on this board holds a series 7, series 65 or has a CFA or CFP or any other designation that would qualify him to give financial advice.

Even if they did, it would be required to give the person a disclosure to read and sign before giving such advice.

That the local gurus blithly ignore these issues and spout off advice from the top of their heads is really, really reprehensible... and could shut this board down.
 
No one is getting paid to post trades here.

Quote from JackDogII:

If you check with a securities lawyer my lay opinion is that you will find the coversations here are covered by what is known as a publisher exemption. It's what lets trading rooms operate without registration.

Anybody here can say almost anything.

Wrapped a little tight there my man.

cheers

Jack
 
Quote from danshirley:

I believe that giving direct financial advice to individuals on a chat room board is both unethical and illegal.

It is one thing to shoot the breeze with fellow knowledgeable investors , but when abviously naive individuals show up with serious financial problems the bullshitters on this board should have enough sense to pass and refer them to a legally qualified individual.

I don't believe anyone on this board holds a series 7, series 65 or has a CFA or CFP or any other designation that would qualify him to give financial advice.

Even if they did, it would be required to give the person a disclosure to read and sign before giving such advice.

That the local gurus blithly ignore these issues and spout off advice from the top of their heads is really, really reprehensible... and could shut this board down.

If someone is violating a law--sure--we are in agreement.

However, that doesn't mean sympathy should be extended to those who foolishly listen with their wallets to buys and sells.
 
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