That was not the intention of my post. Further I have no particular interest in this topic. I merely mentioned, for your benefit, the opinion of an election official directly involved and the current plan of the Trump Campaign with regard to Wisconsin. With only innuendo and no evidence of fraud, their protestations and suits will go nowhere. I'll become interested at the first evidence of something other than foolish innuendo.
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I don’t claim to be Canadian or that I necessarily feel obligated to adhering to what you Characterize as how Canadians view Left or Right.
I never actually said fraud was committed. I used the terms “Anomaly” and “Indications of Fraud” to express my concerns about the integrity of elections in certain swing states and that these indications of fraud should be investigated in ensure our Presidential election is legitimate.
As far as my specific concerns, you know them, as I have told you directly, and as pointed out at the beginning of the thread and in others. As a reminder, I’m not the only one with concerns about election integrity. There are increasing numbers of election observers coming forward as well as more information coming out that support the contention that Democrats are trying to steal the Presidental election. Details on this are either in other threads or in the process of coming out, if what I’m hearing is correct.
As I stated earlier, this election will be determined by evidence, competence, and valid votes. I have also stated I would support our duly elected President. Whether it is Trump or Biden. Note: I said duly elected, as in legitimately elected. Don’t you want the opportunity for Biden to be given a chance by those on the Right? If indeed, he becomes our legitimately elected President?
There is a difference between innuendo and expressing specific indications of election fraud. For For all the seeming blabber and histrionics on this issue, no one has found a way to effectively addess the multiple indications of fraud. “Orange man bad”, “Hillary Conceded”, “There were witnesses and cameras” does not directly address the various indications of election fraud, especially In Wisconsin, that I observed in real time. I took notes and posted them in the first post of the thread of what I observed during election night. Further, more information has come out since then that shows there are additional indications of election fraud as in this and other threads by multipke sources. Until you address the various indications of voting fraud directly, we are going around in circles.
Ahem.
Judge Paul Diamond (PA):"Are your observers in the counting room?"
Trump Campaign Lawyer: "There's a non zero number of people in the room."
Judge Paul Diamond (PA):"I'm asking you as member of the bar of this court: are people representing Donald J Trump for president, representing the plaintiffs, in that room?"
Trump Campaign Lawyer: "Yes."
Judge Paul Diamond (PA):"I'm sorry, then what's your problem?"
- as a member of the bar of this court ... a non zero member at that hmmm
Trump Campaign Lawyer: "There's a non zero number of people in the room."
Judge Paul Diamond (PA):"I'm asking you as member of the bar of this court: are people representing Donald J Trump for president, representing the plaintiffs, in that room?"
Trump Campaign Lawyer: "Yes."
Judge Paul Diamond (PA):"I'm sorry, then what's your problem?"
- as a member of the bar of this court ... a non zero member at that hmmm
Enjoy your personal investigation I'm done with this and quote happy to move on with Biden as US President. You are bringing a lot of unnecessary drama to the table with ZERO evidence of fraud. I strongly suspect fraud in this election is about as real as Big Foot, WMDs in Iraq, and the pedophile ring the Clintons supposedly ran above a pizza shop. You are free to believe Trump, ignoring that he's been fact checked for tens of thousands of outright lies over 4 years.
Not one word of what you’ve provided here could be considered a reasonable counterargument as why the ample indications of fraud in Wisconsin are not indications of fraud or why we should not insist upon election integrity.
Pretend the apparent ballot dump in Wisconsin is the Steele Dossier, if that would help you to supporting an investigation. At least the situation in Wisconisn has a solid basis for concern.
Biden won by improving on Hillary Clinton’s numbers in the suburbs. My guess is that Biden won the suburbs by about 4 points nationwide.
So far it actually looks like Biden underperformed in the cities, ie Philadelphia and Detroit - definitely Miami. Trump actually made a lot of in roads, it looks like.
The point is republicans by and large did well but voters rejected Trump. Kind of an odd way to cheat if you’re a Democrat- upping voter share in red counties and decreasing share in cities. It must be a masterful cheating to up percentages in 1000s of Suburban localities by 2 and 3 percent. How do you do that from a cheating standpoint when most of those localities are actually run by republicans?
So far it actually looks like Biden underperformed in the cities, ie Philadelphia and Detroit - definitely Miami. Trump actually made a lot of in roads, it looks like.
The point is republicans by and large did well but voters rejected Trump. Kind of an odd way to cheat if you’re a Democrat- upping voter share in red counties and decreasing share in cities. It must be a masterful cheating to up percentages in 1000s of Suburban localities by 2 and 3 percent. How do you do that from a cheating standpoint when most of those localities are actually run by republicans?
That's a good point if cheating was occurring why not the Senate and House as well ? Of course there is no rational case for widespread cheating it wouldn't have appeared in the voting in such a smooth trend ( isolating the walk-in and mail-in aspects for obvious reasons ).