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Here is a video proof of cheating on the spot caught on video. If it is being done in one location, it is happening at other locations and why is this A-Okay? Election worker filling out a ballot and manufacturing votes? What else, could it be?

 
Frederick Foresight said:
Why? Because of the outdated electoral college concept?
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Not at all. The electoral college is part of what it means to be a Constitutional Republic. There's nothing questionable about it, it is in the founding documents of the country.

We don't challenge other countries when they follow their constitutions or laws. We challenge them because they cheat or have non-transparent elections. Just like we are doing right now.
 
Tsing Tao said:
Not at all. The electoral college is part of what it means to be a Constitutional Republic. There's nothing questionable about it, it is in the founding documents of the country.

We don't challenge other countries when they follow their constitutions or laws. We challenge them because they cheat or have non-transparent elections. Just like we are doing right now.
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What cheating or lack of transparency is going on right now? Please advise.
 
Frederick Foresight said:
What cheating or lack of transparency is going on right now? Please advise.
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Did you not read my comments in the OP?

When Pennsylvania restricts republican monitors from viewing ballot counting, but not democrat ones - and the GOP has to go to a court to get a judge ordering them to get entry and STILL they are denied, that's not transparent.
 
Tsing Tao said:
You can disagree about widespread if you wish. The very word is subjective in nature. And its not provable anyway, so you'll have your opinion, I'll have mine.

To me, any fraud is unacceptable, but there's no way to remove all fraud from an election. At least, no way we'd be willing to embrace. I consider widespread to be thousands of ballots. That meets my criteria.
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There is no fraud. Show me some evidence. Why is this even a topic, I don't remember the Democrats in 2016 claiming fraud. Oh yes, we know why it's a topic, Trump and some of his cult followers have been declaring fraud for months before even one vote was counted.

To be blunt here, when Americans pander to this conspiracy bs in numbers you become the laughing stock of the world. Why is it countries like Canada, for example, can run elections, change parties, count votes with NONE of this drama in many decades ?

I'm not surprised though because even deaths due to Covid, an easily verifiable event ( dead is dead ), some of you are still debating if it's real or just some normal amount of illness and deaths due to a flu. I'm also not surprised that Trump's go to move is to whine, deny reality, and get his team of lawyers to try to rewrite reality. It's how he deals with his failed businesses.

Get a grip, seriously, time to move on from this foolishness.
 
Nine_Ender said:
There is no fraud. Show me some evidence. Why is this even a topic, I don't remember the Democrats in 2016 claiming fraud. Oh yes, we know why it's a topic, Trump and some of his cult followers have been declaring fraud for months before even one vote was counted.

To be blunt here, when Americans pander to this conspiracy bs in numbers you become the laughing stock of the world. Why is it countries like Canada, for example, can run elections, change parties, count votes with NONE of this drama in many decades ?

I'm not surprised though because even deaths due to Covid, an easily verifiable event ( dead is dead ), some of you are still debating if it's real or just some normal amount of illness and deaths due to a flu. I'm also not surprised that Trump's go to move is to whine, deny reality, and get his team of lawyers to try to rewrite reality. It's how he deals with his failed businesses.

Get a grip, seriously, time to move on from this foolishness.
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Your problem is that you accept nothing other than your own view in the world. You're not open to any other interpretation of any other event. Given that simple fact, me providing you anything to consider is a waste of time, as you'll just piss all over it.
 
Tsing Tao said:
Did you not read my comments in the OP?

When Pennsylvania restricts republican monitors from viewing ballot counting, but not democrat ones - and the GOP has to go to a court to get a judge ordering them to get entry and STILL they are denied, that's not transparent.
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Perhaps if you were to furnish me a link to a reputable source outlining the details of this story. I can't find one.
 
Tsing Tao said:
A recount in all close states - though "close" would have to be defined, with both monitors overseeing would absolutely satisfy me 100%.

But I don't need satisfying. I'm just fine with the results as they are. However, like I said, I don't believe we can ever tell other countries their elections are faulty.
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Trump has asked for a recount of Wisconsin where he lost by 20,000 votes the same margin he won by in 2016. The last recount ended up changing the final tally by around 120. It's a complete waste of tax payers money unless your entire election process in a massive fraud. That idea is ridiculous for numerous reasons, but some Americans choose ridiculous these days.

As was suggested before the election, it was obvious which side would respond poorly if they lost. They haven't even technically lost yet, and they are acting poorly.
 
Tsing Tao said:
Your problem is that you accept nothing other than your own view in the world. You're not open to any other interpretation of any other event. Given that simple fact, me providing you anything to consider is a waste of time, as you'll just piss all over it.
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Buddy, it's reality. This is not about accepting views. There is no real basis to claim fraud. None.
 
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